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1.NIGGER>>>>AS IN, JACKIE IS A NIGGER
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All these subhuman races are scum, especially niggers, 
turbanheads, muslims, cameljockeys, wiggers, faggots, and kikes.
Gooks and spicks aren't as much scum, but are still scum, 
nonetheless. Out of gooks and spicks, I would say gooks are 
worse than spicks.

Niggers, muslims, turbanheads, and cameljockeys, well it should 
be obvious to you why these are scum.

They do nothing, but bomb buildings in our country, pollute our 
streets with gangs, and drugs, fuck up the entertainment 
industry with their stupid ass rap, and R&B music, live in 
filth, eat filth, rape children, shoot white people (because 
they're too pussyshit to fistfight a white person because they 
know they'd get their asses beat), steal cars, and other 
expensive things that white people work hard for, live off 
welfare, don't even try to work for a living, spread diseases 
and parasites, not to mention they stink, and smell like shit 
and look really goddamn fucking ugly.
Arabs are the worst of all. After all Osama Bin Laden and most 
of his Taliban troops are a bunch of stinking Arabs.

As for faggots, well they're just plain sick. A total disgrace 
to mankind. They spread perhaps even more diseases than niggers, 
plus they're just sick in everyway possible. It's not humna to 
be gay.
What does GAY stand for?
Got AIDS yet?

What's the difference between dog shit and niggers?
When dog shit gets old it turns White and quits stinking.

<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1c.gif>
What's the difference between a jew and a pizza?
A pizza doesn't scream in the oven.

What's the difference between a nigger and a snow tire?
A snow tire doesn't sing when you put chains on it.

What would you call the Flintstones if they were black?
Niggers.

Why don't sharks eat niggers?
They think it's whale shit.

What do you call a nigger in a tree with a briefcase?
Branch manager.

How come there aren't any Mexicans on Star Trek?
<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1d.jpg> They don't 
work in the future, either.

Why do niggers cry during sex?
The Mace.

How do you stop a nigger from drowning?
Take your foot off the back of his head.

How do you get a nigger out of a tree?
Cut the rope.

What did the Alabama sherriff call the nigger who had been shot 
15 times?
Worst case of suicide he had ever seen.

What do you get when you cross a retard with a gang banger?
Someone who spray paints on a chain link fence.

Why do niggers stink?
So blind people can hate them too.

What do you get when you cross a nigger and a spic?
<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1e.jpg> Someone 
too lazy to steal.

Why don't niggers take aspirin?
They refuse to pick the cotton out.

What do nigger kids get for Christmas?
Your bike.

What's a niggers idea of foreplay?
"Don't scream or I'll cut you, bitch."

Why do spics drive low-riders?
So they can cruise and pick lettuce at the same time.

<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1f.jpg> What do 
you get when you cross a jew and a gypsy?
A chain of empty retail stores.

Why don't nigger kids play in the sandbox?
Cats keep covering them up.

What do you call an apartment full of niggers?
A COON-dominium.

Why are there no nigger astronauts?
<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1g.jpg> Their lips 
explode at 50,000 feet.

How do you babysit a niglet?
Wet his lips and stick him to the wall.

How do you get him down?
Teach him to say "Motherfucker."

<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1h.jpg> How else 
do you babysit a niglet?
Put Velcro on the ceiling and tell him to jump.

How do you get him down?
Invite the spics over, blindfold them and tell them it's a 
pi ata party.

Why do jews have big noses?
Air is free.

What is a nigger on a bike?
Thief.

What's long and black and smells like shit?
<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1i.jpg> The 
welfare line.

What do you call 50 niggers at the bottom of the ocean?
Good start.

What is the worst 3 years of a niggers life?
First grade.

How was break dancing invented?
Niggers trying to steal hubcaps from moving cars.

Why do niggers keep chickens in their back yards?
<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1j.jpg> To teach 
their kids how to walk.

How do you know Adam and Eve were not black?
You ever try to take a rib from a nigger?

What is a nigger?
Proof that skunks fuck monkeys.

What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead 
nigger in the road?
The dead dog has skid marks in front of it.

What did Abe Lincoln say after a 3 day drunk?
"I set WHO free?"

Why are chimps always frowning?
They know in a million years they are going to turn into niggers.

Why is interrogating a Mexican like a pool ball?
<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1k.jpg> The harder 
you hit it the more English you get.

How many jews can you fit in a VolksWagon?
All of them if you put them in the ashtray.

A nigger and a spic jump off the Empire State Building, who hits 
the ground first?
Who cares.

A nigger and a spic jump off the Empire State Building, who hits 
the ground first?
The spic, because the nigger had to stop on the way down and 
spray paint "motherfucker" on the wall.

<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1l.jpg> Why don't 
spics have barbeques?
The beans keep falling through the grill.

<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1m.jpg> You hear 
about the new car made in Israel?
Not only can it stop on a dime, it will go back and pick it up.

What do you call an Ethiopian with a pickle on his head?
A quarter-pounder.

How many Ethiopians can you fit in a phone booth?
<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1n.gif> All of 
them.

How do you start a foot race in Ethiopia?
Roll a doughnut down the street.

How many niggers does it take to pave a driveway?
One if you spread him real thin.

How do you blindfold a chink?
Dental floss.

How do chinks name their kids?
They throw silverware down the stairs.

What's the difference between a nigger and a bag of shit?
<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1o.gif>
<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1p.jpg> The bag.

What's the most confusing day in Harlem?
Father's Day.

When does a Black man turn into a nigger?
As soon as he leaves the room.

What do you call a nigger with a Harvard education?
Nigger.

What do you call a nigger in a courtroom in a 3 piece suit?
The defendant.

There is a nigger and a spic in a car, who's driving?
The cop.

Why is Stevie Wonder always smiling?
He doesn't know he's black.

How long does it take a nigger bitch to take a shit?
9 months.

Why don't nigger women wear panties to picnics?
<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1q.jpg> To keep 
the flies off the chicken.

Why does Alabama have niggers and California have earthquakes?
California got first pick.

Why do Mexican cars have those little steering wheels?
So they can drive handcuffed.

Why are niggers like sperm?
Only one in a million actually work.

What do you call Mike Tyson with no arms?
Niger nigger nigger.

How do you fit 100 Cubans in a shoe box?
Tell them its a raft.

Why do police dogs lick their ass?
To get the taste of nigger out of their mouth.

What can a pizza do that a nigger can't?
Feed a family of four.

Why did the nigger carry a piece of shit in his wallet?
I.D.

What is red green yellow orange purple and pink?
A nigger dressed for church.

Why do niggers have flat noses?
That's where god put his feet when he was pulling off their 
tails.

<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1r.jpg> Did you 
hear that the KKK bought the movie rights to Roots?
They're going to play it backwards so it has a happy ending.

What is the difference between a white owl and a black owl?
A white owl goes, "Who, who," a black owl goes, "Who dat? Who 
dat?"

Did you hear about the new Black Barbie?
It comes with 12 kids, AIDS and a welfare check.

What is black, white, and rolls off the end of the pier?
A nigger and a seagull fighting over a chicken wing.

What do you get when you cross a nigger with a gorilla?
A dumb gorilla.

What is the difference between Batman and a black man?
Batman can go out at night without Robin.

Did you hear about the new Chap Stick for niggers?
It comes in a spray can.

What's the difference between niggers and pit-bulls?
It's still legal to own a pit-bull.

What do you say to a black man in uniform?
"I'll have a Big Mac with cheese and a coke."

Why do niggers walk the way they do?
Because they spent the first nine months of their lives dodging 
a coat hanger.

What happened when the Ethiopian fell in the crocodile pit?
He ate six crocs before they could pull him out.

Why do niggers call white people "honkies"?
That's the last sound they hear before the white people run them 
over.

How do you stop a nigger from going out?
Pour more gas on him.

Did you hear about the nigger with insomnia?
He kept waking up twice a week.

What do you do if you run over a nigger?
Reverse.

Why do decent white folks shop at nigger yard sales?
To get all their stuff back.

Who were the three most famous women in black history?
Aunt Jemima, Diana Ross, and Mother Fucker!

Hear about the new bumper sticker that says "Run, Jesse, Run"?
You put it on the front of your car.

What do Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles have in common?
They're both niggers.

How come Stevie Wonder & Ray Charles can't read?
They're both niggers.

Why do niggers wear wide-brimmed hats?
So pigeons can't shit on their lips.

Why did so many nigger soldiers get killed in Vietnam?
Every time someone yelled "Get down!" the niggers would jump up 
and start dancing.

What do you get when you cross a nigger with a Vietnamese?
Nothing. There are some things even a Vietnamese won't do.

What's black and tan and looks good on a nigger?
A Doberman Pinscher.

What's the fastest animal in the world?
The Ethiopian chicken.

Did you hear about Evel Knieval's new motorcycle stunt?
He's going to ride through Ethiopia with a sandwich tied to his 
back.

Did you hear about Ku Klux Knieval?
He tried to jump 50 niggers with a steam roller.

Why was golf invented?
So white people get a chance to dress like niggers.

What do you do if you see a nigger with half a head?
<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1s.jpg> Stop 
laughing and reload.

Why did god create orgasms?
So niggers know when to stop.

Why did god give niggers rhythm?
Because he fucked up their hair, nose and lips.

Why are so many niggers moving to Detroit?
They heard there were no jobs there.

Why can't nigger women become nuns?
Because they can't get used to saying 'superior' after 'Mother'.

How do you fit 15 niggers in the back of a Cadillac?
Don't worry, they'll figure it out.

What's yellow and black and makes you laugh ?
A bus full of niggers going over a cliff.

How do you stop a nigger from drowning?
You don't.

Whats the differance between Afghanistan and Christmas?
Christmas will be here this year.

Whats blue and hangs in my front yard?
My nigger I can paint him whatever color I want.

Why do seagulls have wings?
To beat the niggers to the dump.

What's a crying shame?
When a bus full of niggers drives off a cliff and there were 3 
empty seats.

What do you call an Ethiopian with a feather up his ass?
A dart.

Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
Because one of them lost a quarter.

What does N.A.A.C.P stand for?
Niggers Are Always Causing Problems

How many spics does it take to have a bath?
Five, one to lie in the tub and four to spit on him.

What do a nigger and an apple have in common?
They both look good hanging from a tree.

Why are niggers always buried 12 feet deep?
Deep down they're good people.

What's the difference between a porch monkey and a yard ape?
The length of the chain.

What's black, orange, and very pretty?
A nigger on fire.

What do you have if you've got a nigger up to his neck in cement?
Not enough cement.

How was copper wire invented?
Two jews fighting over a penny.

How do you starve a nigger?
Hide his welfare check under his work boots.

<HTTP://www.mrcharlie.addr.com/imagefiles/joke1t.gif> How do you 
get 12 niggers in a Volkswagen?
Throw in a welfare check.

How do you get them out?
Throw in a job application.

Why are there trees in Harlem?
Public transportation.

How does a black woman fight crime?
She has an abortion.

What do you say when you see your T.V. floating around at night?
"Drop it nigger."

Why do niggers put their garbage out in clear plastic bags?
So mexicans can window shop.

Why do mexicans buy Cabbage Patch dolls?
Because they come with birth certificates.

Why don't mexicans have any Olympic teams?
Because all the mexicans who can run, jump, or swim have already 
left the country.

Why don't mexicans play hide and seek?
Because no one will look for them.

Why do mexicans have re-fried beans?
Have you ever heard of a mexican doing anything right the first 
time?

How can you tell a mexican airline?
It's the one with hair under the wings.

What do you get when you cross a mexican with an octopus?
I don't know but it sure can pick lettuce.

What are three things you can't give a nigger?
A black eye, a fat lip and an education.

What do niggers use to wash their white clothes?
BLEEATCH!

Why can't spics be firefighters?
They can't tell Jose from hose B.

What did the nigger say when he slid down the zebra?
Now you see me, now you don't, now you see me, now you don't.

What is the difference between a pair of jeans and an Ethiopian?
A pair of jeans only has one fly on it.

What word starts with "N" and ends with "R" that you never want 
to call a black person?
Neighbor.

What do you call two Ethiopians in a gold sleeping bag?
Twix.

Why is a Spic like a Skunk?
Beause they're half balck and half white, and smell like shit.

Whats the difference between a nigger and a letter?
You can send a letter back to where it came from.

Whats the difference between the holy grail and a nigger's daddy?
You may find the grail.

What is black, runny, and scratches on glass?
A nigger in a microwave.

What do you call 9 mexicans in front of your house?
A spicket fence.

How does the navy use niggers?
They debone them and use them as wetsuits.

What does Pontiac stand for?
Poor Old Niggers Think Its A Cadillac.

Do you remember the nigger family on the Jetsons? No?
The future looks pretty good!

Did you hear about the nigger that thought he was bleeding to 
death?
Turns out he just had diarhea.

Why don't jews like oral sex?
It's too close to the gas chamber.

Why don't you run over a nigger on a bike?
Its probably your bike.

What do you call 50 niggers burried up to their necks in dirt?
Afro-turf.

Why do niggers drive with their windows up?
They think the smell is coming from outside.

Why do niggers eat tootsie rolls with a fork?
So they dont bite their fingers.

What do you call two nigger cops on motorcycles?
Chocolate chips.

Why don't niggers celebrate Thanksgiving?
KFC isn't open on holidays.

Why do niggers like basket ball?
It involves running, shooting and stealing.

What has four legs and a black arm?
A happy pitbull.

How do you know if a nigger is well hung?
If you can't fit your finger between his neck and the noose.

Did you hear about the jewish child molestor?
He hid in the bushes and said, "Hey little boy, wanna buy some 
candy?"

Did you hear about the jew bitch who told her husband, "Give me 
10 inches and make it hurt."?
He fucked her twice and threw her down the stairs.


How many nigger college students does it take to screw in a 
lightbulb?
Only one, but he gets 6 credits for it.

why do french people fucking stink?
why do french people fucking look so ugly?
why are french people so fucking short?
why are french people so fucking miserable?
why are french people so fucking unfunny?
why are french people so fucking up they're own arse?
why are french people so fucking shit as allies in wartime?
why are french people such fucking back-stabbing pieces of shit?
why are french people so fucking covered in shit-splat moles? 
urgh!!
why are french people so fucking big-nosed?
why are french people so fucking difficult?
why are french people so fucking shit at singing?
why are french people so fucking disliked...everywhere?
why are french people so fucking close to England...fuck off !!!
why are french people so fucking self-important.
why are french people so fucking here?!!! 
why are french boys so fucking gay?

Palestinians have been told to spare no effort at making 
bombings a worldwide event.

Anyone else think the virus contagion on the cruise ships is a 
bit suspect?

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racist is a youth for youth resource guide on how to fight racism
racist is deeply entrenched in the minds of many people
racist is hardly shocking
racist is; a racist is a racist
racist is how the victims of the proposal perceive
racist is a kkk member in bed sheets burning crosses
racist is generally not interested in arguments
racist is that reggie? yes
racist is an issue for people who haven't given up hope for a 
better past
racist is pretty insulting

Googlism for: moron

moron is a moron
moron is trying
moron is out this moron is taking off august 19 through 
september 5 to restore his naive optimism to its formerly 
imperturbable level
moron is simply a victim of his times
moron is back
moron is a platform independent tool to classify given images 
as "pron
moron is a one
moron is speaking
moron is a sad piece of trailer trash who
moron is not a responsible citizen
moron is connected to the following things
moron is also a stopover point for the hundreds of soldiers and 
airmen who spend a day at the base before leaving for their home 
stations in the continental
moron is a quiet ghost town of a base in southern spain
moron is sharp with explanations and spelling too date
moron is sharp with explanations and
moron is in servers running windows 2000
moron is it
moron is not the primary base for air operations
moron is your
moron is posting using my name
moron is a vast complex of university buildings in the west side
moron is just thought of as stupid
moron is chosen as the moron of the month we will add a link to 
your page from the main page of our site for the month
moron is so moronic
moron is a endangered speceis
moron is close to the foothills of the sierra de ronda mountain 
chain
moron is made up of a group of 4 college friends
moron is introduced with the wonderful cast of wild and whacko 
characters in the crazy world of the gop
moron is
moron is  stood up  99
moron is the mildest term i can come up with
moron is not only ignorant of widely
moron is feeling
moron is a word no longer in scientific use because it?s 
considered offensive
moron is not ad hominem
moron is approaching you at a high speed
moron is ignored
moron is using extremely large
moron is a widespread
moron is teleported away
moron is from this gem of a statement
moron is the island's largest species
moron is an insult? no no
moron is the closest to normal in the
moron is a crew term for an "ac
moron is a solid owner
moron is trully not a true gator fan
moron is not very christian
moron is asleep
moron is an oxymoron derived of the tribe alwaysmoron
moron is the large parish church
moron is complete slimeball
moron is a relative of puran appu? by christie cooray
moron is enough to gauge the plight of our nation after the 
victory of a set of quislings
moron is right
moron is the lawyer who doesn't 86 her
moron is a native hillbilly
moron is a rev
moron is the official name for merivale high school"s anime club
moron is me
moron is the third celtiberian city cited by pliny who called ir 
aruncii
moron is also welsh for carrot
moron is not here
moron is now illegal
moron is a special name given to pete by bil
moron is an adult person with a mental age of
moron is incredibly naive to think that visitors to his/her page 
do not recognise avs
moron is confused about life
moron is awarded to the recording industry association of america
moron is an analyst??
moron is moronic

"Hello...Hello.. Saddam? is that you? This is Arafat, no I don't 
have a flat..THIS IS YASSER ARAFAT!!" "Oh, my good egyptian 
terrorist friend, How are you and how much money do you 
want?" "Enough with the jokes Saddam, I am having trouble with 
my new cell phone, something about free long distance and all 
that, but anyway I need you to send me some of your best men, I 
have been forgotten and no one is left here, Sharon has blasted 
all of my best men to bits!!!" "I am sorry Yasser, I am under 
servailence by American spies. They are crawling all over the 
PALACE!! I am so MAD!! They even spit on my prayer rug and 
telling me it was going to be confiscated as a wepon of mass 
destruction!!!" "Saddam, I am so outraged! Sharon has had me 
eating bagels for almost a YEAR now and I cant take a dump 
anymore with out drinking a gallon of water first!!" "Tell me 
about it Yasser, Colin Powel has kept poking me with his damn 
mag light and telling me bad jokes about YOU!! it is an out 
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Prank caller my ass, you foamed at the mouth while I laughed my 
ass off!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! 
       If U had any common sense you would just admit it. 
                   LOL!!!
Your repaeted and continued spamming is a riot! that's all. 
            You see...You mistake me for someone who GIVES A SHIT
                   GOT ya! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
          Just because I have valid opinion does not mean
          I am void of a sense of humor. You ought to just let 
          it go and move on. You are wasting your time if you 
          think I give a shit.

I see sister Jackie is flaming mad and going to turn us all in 
to the spam police. OOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo
          I am soooooooo scared!!! 
U know who! quick to the R U A Cunt mobile, Tell Los Lobos to 
hold the pizza delivery man untill we get back!! Board Goat, 
tell Shit Ball to meet us in down town Jokes Ville with Bull 
Dog! We have some serious spam fighters to defeat!!
           Holy Shit Ball Spam man!        

That's right..in case you forgot..that perverted spam you spew 
on here, yea that...is the "Joke" of the board. So you see. it 
was really YOU that began the "joke board" he he ... not me. I 
was just inspired to put some on here too, by YOU! 
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! So LIGHTEN UP ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     And Get a GRIP!!

IT WAS MORE OF A CASE OF HANGING UP ON A PRANK PHONE CALLER. HOW 
MANY ADULTS WOULD STAY ON THE PHONE ARGUING WITH A PRANK CALL?
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING BALLS AND COMMON SENCE.
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PRANK PHONE CALLER, AND A 
LITTLE BOY ANSWERING THE PHONE. 

I see you LIKE it here, welcome to the shit pit of all web 
message boards. Here let me get you a spam on white bread 
sandwitch! Oh yea White Bread, that's a RACIAL SLURRR, Wouldn't 
wnat to offend any WHITE PEOPLE!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE CANT ALL STAND AROUND WAITING FOR PAINT TO DRY.

Because it PISSES YOU OFF!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Grow the fuck up ya pissy little shit!!

I can, and I get paid $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to do it HAHAHAHA!!!!!

AMUSING.

Just piss on your dog and stick your cat in the microwave, Fuck 
your chicken and play with your turds (yes Turds) And Be HAPPY!
        

You stomp around like a street nigger with rocks in his shoes!!
         >>>>>>>>>LIGHTEN UP!!! <<<<<<<<<<<
    Do you always BITCH?? Like a OLD FART??? 
  Loosen your DEPANDS up a bit so you can think!!

MILLIONS.

Depends, see I just SUCK at spelling, MUST be the PAINT!! HAHAHA
                     OY! 
    Well Nice Spamming at ya. Don't let the Sister get you down.
               Holy Spam (Religious Joke!)    

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SURE DOES.

So Fucking what? R U Gonna CRY?

IM GOING TO POST.

Terrorist is where we live, listen to the anger and hate that 
presents it self. Look at the hate of religion. Should one man 
be judged by his brother. The ignorance that man continues to 
voice. The disrespect for faith and God. These are troubling 
times and the bible speaks of it. Man who crowns his self as 
Allah our God, And speaks as a jack ass in one words. 
Murder is murder Know mans country, are children should be 
killed . This has been the down fall of all nations, those who 
think they are greater than God. The devils children with no 
respect are reguards for the creator who allow them to live upon 
this earth. Attacking faiths and those who minister in the name 
of peace.
We must keep in mind clean up our on house before we try to 
clean someone else. 
Slavery, Jealousy, Racism, Hatred dose that not signify this 
course of conversation.
Hatred against one another. Slavery a form of satins revenge. 
All those who hate God and defile the sanctuary of his name. Be 
not afraid of life, be afraid of death, and those who speak so 
freely disreguarding the sanctuary of our Allah God.
Slavery a word of genocide that plays with mans mind.
Slavery only in the mind of those who live in a cardboardbox 
with no air.
Slavery theirs no leaders needed to remove the garbage 
thatrepresents death.
Slavery opens your eyes you were already free.
Slavery opens the eyes only one can enslave self.
Slavery Capitalistic storage for easy labor by the sins ofman.
Slavery oppressor who lives through others to recede.
Slavery who is the mind who accepts tactics of the devilrevenge.
Slavery whom is better off dead to live in death.
Slavery life dose not begin at birth.Slavery sipping on pain.
Playing the devils games. No one have power over you.
Only those who have been lost and can no longer see.
Slavery breaking the chains of your mind.
Slavery there will be no darkness, just walk in.
Brainwash  to keep you in chains.Ignorance infected with pain.
Playing on the humble and weak.Servants under the oppressor who 
never sleeps.
Watches you to keep you in place.
Slavery loyalty only to self. Satan is there to grab yoursoul
Man the passive to self, do you know who is concealing yourlife.
The passive believe in me and refuse to unite.
Terrorist againsT nations, Terrorist against God, Terrorist 
against man kind. Terriorist against religion. We all play apart 
in this destruction. Many who have died for no cause hatred of 
those who try to still the throne of our God. There will be only 
one winner in this War. The almighty God the sins shall fall 
upon the children destruction by the people of the land.
Terrorist against man kind.

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You came on here starting all kinds of racist shit. You are the 
type of twat that will do a lousy job at the Kentucky Fried 
Chicken hut and then turn around and call RACISM when your lazy 
ass gets fired.  Jackie, you are the fart of my asshole.

So tell me Wanker, R U A Muslim Cunt Lover? Is THAT what all 
this shit is about? You are a FUCKING CUM BAG MUSLIM and that is 
why you have continued to hog these domain names and pay to 
prank all who have come on this board? Because YOU are a Fucking 
MUSLIM SLIME BALL? Funny, that is what Facts Finder has said all 
along. I suspect it also. YOU are a Muslim CUNT. 

he really does eat shitty assholes..fucken has been, loser, 
wannabee, cant get his dick up drug addict. ha ha hee hee ho!

mickey dolenz has shit up his ass.

http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~kinho/youare.swf

Marie, the dawn is b-r-e-a-k-i-n-g
Marie my twat is a-c-h-i- n-g


Following tune to dont go breaking my heart by Elton John and 
kikdee

DONT GO BREAKING MY T-W-A-T,
I COULDNT EVEN I TRIED,
WELL, HONEY WHEN I GET RESTLESS
BABY, YOUR NOT THAT KIND.

DONT GO BREAKING MY T-W-A-T,
YOU FUCKED THE SHIT OUT OF ME,
OH BABY WHEN I SUCKED YOUR ASSHOLE
WHAT MADE YOU SUDDENLY PEE/

DONT GO BREAKING MY T-W-A-T
DONT GO BREAKING MY T-W-A-T
SOMEBODYS BREAKING MY T-W-A-T

Walter=EagleEye

PING THIS SITE, IT IS TOTAL BULLSHIT.  THE WEBMASTER IS USING A 
DEFUNCT WEB ADDRESS TO FOOL YOU INTO LOGGING ON, THEN GATHERING 
YOUR IP ADDRESS AND INFORMATION TO SELL AND MAKE MONEY.  HE HAS 
SEVERAL WEBSITES LIKE THIS ONE WHICH HAVE PROVOCATIVE TITLES AND 
MESSAGES. THE FIRST NUMBER OF POSTS STAY PUT BUT THE REST ARE 
REGENERATED AND DISAPPEAR PAST A CERTAIN POINT.  IT IS AN 
AUTOMATICALLY RUN PROGRAM.  WE SHOULD TRY TO HAVE HIM SHUT DOWN 
SOMEHOW, HOW DARE HE MAKE MONEY FROM THIS TRAGEDY.  HIS NAME IS 
DAVID ZELIN AND HIS NUMBER IS 617-269-8824. I GOT THE 
INFORMATION BY PINGING HIM.

It is a two fold question. In the eyes of religion, this is all 
related and a consequance for sin. Prophesized and likened to 
the wrath of God. It is also natural. The completely natural 
magnetic shift in the earth of the polar north to south. In 
man's mind all things unexplained are related to the common bond 
of spirit we call God. The thing lost to time is this.
We are also in that same way bonded to the earth, stars and our 
environment. We like to think we are superior, as represented in 
the Christian Bible "go forth and subjegate the earth" we could 
not be more wrong. With out trees...We have nothing to breath, 
no air, no wood to build with and no common bond of spirit. Any 
hunter will tell you of his "bond" with the experiance in 
nature. No trees, no animals, no fruit, no cures for our 
sickness. All the medicine we need is grown in the shade of 
trees, ferns and such. 
You ask what sins? only because you are thinking only of the 
sins to your fellow man. Now look at it from a new perspective, 
not just the sins of man to man but consider Man to Nature... 
Think out of the man made box our minds have been trained to 
believe is true. You will see clearly it is not "just the 
Muslim, Jew, Christian or any religion. 
I know you are "open to thought" and can clearly step out of 
this man made reality. Look back, far back, way 
before "Christians, Jews, Muslims, or even Christ. Before all 
this human dominance of Gods domain. Your and My ancestors 
understood their environment, and lived in it in a far different 
understanding. 
Man uses "religion" to explain away far too much. Brainwashing 
away his responsability and dreaming of space flight and escape 
of his responsability to his home and mother....Earth.
That.....is what sin. 
  You ask what we as Americans can do to undersand? Understand 
the Muslim? Jew? why their hate has extended to us? Even though 
the Muslim lives in Natures most bountiful and resource rich 
area on earth. Look at who they think they are. And who they 
have really committed sin against. Mostly themselves. We got 
involved by trying to have a common goal, Defeat communism. When 
we didn't hand them our lives a servants to Allah and them they 
got all mad and upset. Tribal leadres went right back to fuding 
and Drug profit black market trade. Let alone a boiling pot 
right next door...Africa. Slavery still goes on in both areas! 
And they point their blood stained finger at us! Thay have no 
room to talk. These Islamic Jihad sickos commit the worst human 
attrocities on earth every day and for centuries! And in all 
this we forget......We are all the children of Mother earth, 
greedy self important and missing the forest for the trees. 
  Oil, Oil, Oil, if we can't see we are burning the earth, we 
are surly blind.  

hmmm.  guess you never looked at the bottom of the board where 
all of the 'archives' are?

You little stinker! Now the Pinger will be awake for a week, 
forsaking family, friends and employment! Whoa! Mr. Zelin is a 
Jew as well. From what I've researched, he's more or less, a 
domain broker....he doesn't own this site, but he at the least 
aquired it (very possibly illegally for the law as it was at the 
time) and probably sold it. Just a guess.

Ping: Have you noticed a disturbing lack of banner adds and 
popups here? Download Lavasoft AD-WARE (its a freebee), come 
back to this site....then run ad-ware....if you see something 
like software\gator.com, delete it ASAP or you may be followed 
as you surf....its tracking software that has been placed on 
your computor via this site. The best bet is a good firewall 
which lets you know when a attempt is made to get into your 
computer and tells you who is trying.

Was scanning the board and saw ya "hanging'' 'round.
 Just want to say "hi" and hope everythings well with you and 
others who might be "scanning" the board--------.....ya 
know-----....the "veterans".

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so many greedy fuckers

Thanks to you this board really sucks. goes to show that one sad 
sack of shit can do. 

Men called through mosque loudspeakers for people to come out 
and battle the Israeli soldiers, who entered the Bureij Camp 
just after midnight. Fighters poured into the dark streets, and 
gunbattles raged for three hours. 

It was unclear how many of the dead were fighters. The military 
said a helicopter fired a missile into a street, killing five 
armed men from the violent Islamic Hamas movement. The camp's 
mayor, Kamal Baghdadi, had originally said a tank shell had hit 
a building, killing seven people.

artichoke

Pencil dick 

Here lies the Afghan board. 
Born 9-11-01 --- Died 12-6-02
Cause of death,
shit eating pervert that spammed it daily.

May it Rest In Peace

Okay gang, lets have some holiday fun!  How about a parody on 
songs?  YOU ADD your words. for instance, the old standard 
song.  "I'VE GOT THE WORLD ON A STRING" example"

I'VE GOT THE WORLD ON A STRING,
SHITTING ON A RAINBOW.......




Above line four line postings in accordance with board rules.

http://herobuilders.com/

OSAMA: THE DOLL  
NEW "War On Terror" action dolls have provoked a storm of 
protest.

The 12in toys include figures representing Osama bin Laden, 
Saddam Hussein, George W. Bush and even Tony Blair.

As an extra satirical touch they are sold with an optional pink 
dress or kinky bondage outfit. But the dolls, called The Butcher 
of Baghdad, The Dirty Terrorist and The British Ally, among 
others, have sparked a wave of criticism.

Threats against the makers are being taken so seriously that 
staff are going to work armed while CCTV cameras are trained on 
their HQ in the US state of Connecticut.

Muslims complain that the  20 figures reinforce negative 
stereotypes. "You have disrespect- ed a whole religion by the 
nasty image in your 'villain' doll," said one, referring to the 
bin Laden figure.

The website where they are sold has been deluged with 
accusations of profiteering at the expense of the September 11 
victims.

Emil Vicale, 42, president of herobuilders.com which makes the 
dolls, said 10,000 had been sold so far.

He said: "I just don't understand the criticism - this is meant 
to be funny."

Some of the heaviest criticism has come from the White House - 
aides have written a stern legal letter warning the firm not to 
infringe the President's "image rights".
 
 
http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/homepage/news/page.cfm?
objectid=12417278&method=sm_full&siteid=81959

Yea, the Monica blow up doll didn't go over real well with 
Hillary..........LOL! Kind of an image thing.

It sounds like the Muslims are about to declare another one of 
them thar "FA(R)T WA(R)'s" against the maker of "dirty 
terrorist" Osama and "crackhead" Sadam dolls. Bush is pissed 
because his doll IS anatomicly correct! Hehe!

YOU ARE TOO JUDGEMENTAL SIR. BUSH IS THE ONE MOST UPSET.
WHAT WE ARE MOST WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT SOMEONE WILL STRAP TINY 
BOMBS TO THE MUSLIM DOLLS, AND WILL USE THEM TO BLOW UP BARBIES 
DREAM HOUSE, AND GIVE US AN EVEN WORSE REPUTATION.

ISLAMIC INSTRUCTION FOR THE DAY/DO NOT FACE MECCA AT SUNDOWN IF 
YOU ARE OPERATING A MOTOR VEHICLE. 

I am back, from Holiday. Yesterday, we celebrated the Muslims 
new year call Adil Fitri which happen after their fasting 
months Ramadan about a month or so. Was invited to my muslims 
friend house for lunch, and was wondering, how this can happen 
between muslims and catholics.

It all boilts down to acceptance of each other as another human 
being with different race and religion.

As I always say, the big problem is the acceptance of other 
religion by the Muslims. Have never seen a reporter asking 
muslims leaders of clerics whether can they accept this with 
their heart not on by their words. Arafat had done that many 
times in front of the western media and reverse it in front of 
the Arab media

Terror around the world. Come to think of it the network of 
Osama is not that big but it the world muslims who supported 
him that is worrying. Any 10 people who has knowledge of 
getting their hand on explosive and commit suicide can claim to 
belong to Al queda. We should not focus on Al queda alone but 
the whole muslims world. Not to attack them but to try to 
convince them that what they are doing is wrong which I think 
is a very difficult task.

To Merlyn and NC Gal or UK Citizen
Yes there are those who are destroying this board. Why? simply 
because they have nothing to debate, nothing to proof, nothing 
to confirm, all they can do is try to irritate people so that 
we do not feed each other true information. Through my time 
spend on this board I believe it is the work of only 1 person 
using many names. My advise is just ignored the post. Let him 
say what he want and just take him as an idiot talking to 
himself.

As for jackie post, I believe it is the same person describe 
above who is  trying to creat a racial war in US. Trying to get 
the black against the white. US must remember to stick to the 
principle that all of you are American no matter what colour 
are you and to fight terrorist targeting your people.

NC Gal: Welcome to the midwest! I hope all the snowy/icy stuff 
is melting. Five above zero here this morning...and the worst is 
yet to come.

Facts Finder: You mentioned how Arafat presents a two-faced 
message depending on who he is talking to. The same can be said 
for Saudi Arabia - following the terrorists money trail has 
often led to America's "good friend" in the Muslim world. Now 
when confronted with documented facts showing Saudi goverment 
money directly linked to terrorists, they step-up their thinly 
veiled anti-terrorist rehtoric. Spineless Arabs, jellyfish 
really, trying to play for two teams at once.

om/cf, Our tax dollars at work..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,72371,00.html
.
Hello Facts Finder. Good to hear from you again. Glad you had a 
good Holiday. Good wishes to you and your family for the coming 
Winter Solstice, Christmas and New Year. 
      Merlyn

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is the same federal court 
that ruled earlier this year that the phrase "under God" in the 
Pledge of Allegiance violates the separation of church and state.
*
San Francisco again. Enough said.

It wouldn't hurt America to limit some freedoms because of the 
profound language used.  This limitation on speech and the 
constitution as a whole is coming.  The end is near.

THERE ARE MANY AMERICANS RIGHT NOW ON THE VERGE OF JOINING THE 
AL-QAEDA IN THEIR FIGHT AGAINST AMERICA. WE HAVE THE ADVANTAGE 
OF BEING HERE ALL OF OUR LIVES, AND KNOW MANY OF AMERICA'S 
WEAKNESSES. WE ARE WAITING FOR GEORGE BUSH TO SPARK THE FLAME.

SHOTSZY: If you're still around, I'd just make reference to the 
old saying that anybody who ignores history is doomed to repeat 
it.

Om/cf: Using the word 'cesspool' carries with it a severe danger 
of over selling this board somewhat. If only it was even THAT 
good! LOL!

Recalling your great observation on Tariq Aziz's appearance, 
with his Groucho Marks routine going on there, Hussein's eldest 
son Uday's no oil painting either you'll notice. I reckon 
someone should set up something like, an Iraq's Sexiest 
Man 'Alive' contest in an appeal to the Hussein household's 
vanity. With bloody family infighting hopefully ensuing with 
shotguns and pistols blazing, that may just do the trick. Never 
under-estimate vanity. Apparantly Saddam Hussein dyes his hair 
constantly, for that playboy of the Eastern World look. Odder 
still is the fact that Iraq observers, noticed a media gaff 
where Iraqi T.V. accidently filmed two different Saddam Husseins 
in different locations, on the same day at the same time. That 
confirmed that he has at the very least one double/doppleganger 
walking around Iraq! That begs the question as to whether this 
guy was 'volunteered' for the part or simply replied to the 
advert in a local paper stating:- Stand-in required for Tin pot 
dictator wanted dead by the entire civilised world. Great 
possibilites for constant travel. Fee negotiable on interview.

Oh yeah, Re Jackie: You tried to warn her, oh well..

NC Gal: You are one brave lady. I do hope everything's okay. 
Drop a line here at Christmas, if you wish.

Spy: Hey there Spy, as you can see I returned here sooner than 
I'd planned to, due to...circumstance.

As you've read, this board's gone to hell in a handbasket. Kind 
of reminds of that queue in Blazing Saddles that gathered at the 
request of Heady Lamar, to hound out the good citizens of 
Rockridge. Anyway, do pass on my regards to the theE.S.D. if 
he/she/or they aren't checking the board out at present. Always 
good to hear from you, drop a line anytime.  
 
Marie: Hope you're keeping well too. Don't let the creeps on 
here get you down. I know you're strongly supportive of the U.S. 
and Coalition troops on active duty in the Middle East right 
now. You may have observed a distinct tone of caution in my 
posts regarding Afghanistan and Iraq. I certainly have great 
faith in the professionalism of the British forces active in the 
region at present, and I'm sure you feel the same way about the 
U.S. forces. The reason for my caution is the political drift I 
sense from the world community with Afghanistan in particular, 
though I assume efforts are being made to improve things and 
help set up a fledgling democracy there. If things for whatever 
reason, take a turn for the worse, it's US/UK/coalition troops 
that are in the firing line. I just hope the right decisions are 
being made to prevent any 'worst case scenario' from happening.

Merlyn: Actually, the spamming I was refering to, was what took 
place months ago. The fact is sooner or later somebody will 
always try provoking, so play it as you see fit. As I said 
before, I'm just a part-timer here. Anyway, nice chatting with 
ya.

Everyman & Facts Finder: Pending any replies, shall catch up 
with you both at Christmas time perhaps. Till then, keep putting 
any mischief makers on ignore. Take care.     

Ironic that buying an 'Osama' doll is the rage when he outlawed 
toys in Afghanistan...sure he's thrilled and got an ego boost 
(perhaps even came up with & funded the idea) from seeing 
himself portrayed as an 'action figure'...go figure...

Facts Finder--glad to see you back.  Keep up the diplomatic work.

Spy; keep on keeping on. Figured you might be checking up once 
in awhile...

U.K. Citizen, you're always welcome.

Nameless:  There are MANY Americans who detest the situation in 
Israel.  No, we are not unconcerned about the Palestinians 
losing their lives; yet, do you not think that perhaps they 
ought to arrive at another method to get their points across?  I 
mean, they KNOW what Sharon is going to do.  Think about it.  
Obviously, their 'solution' is NOT WORKING.  Daily bombings 
don't solve anything, and it's a given that Sharon is going to 
send his cronies in to bulldoze homes in retaliation.  It's a 
vicious circle that is going nowhere.  BOTH sides need to GROW 
UP!

Board Goat, this is for you.
O' TALIBAN
(To the tune of Oh Tannenbaum!)

O Taliban, O Taliban!
How are thy strongholds withering!
O Taliban, O Taliban,
How are thy strongholds withering!


Not only Kabul s, no longer thine,
But even your caves are targets prime.
O Taliban, O Taliban,
How are thy strongholds withering!


O Taliban, O Taliban,
Much pleasure doth it bring me!
O Taliban, O Taliban,
Much pleasure doth it bring me!


For every woman that is free,
To celebrate with joy and glee.
O Taliban, O Taliban,
Much pleasure doth it bring me!


O Taliban, O Taliban,
Shine thy candles brightly!
O Taliban, O Taliban,
Shine thy candles brightly!


Each cave that holds it s tiny light,
Will make each bomb to sparkle bright.
O Taliban, O Taliban,
Shine thy candles brightly!

 2001 Everyman

That's right, we have a new internatonal product; 
     Osama flyers. These super soul shoes will lighten your 
step. 
 Just put them on, light the fuse and Presto! 
Only $195.49! A special discount for infidels!!
Try them! fly them! 
    Patent pending!!

(A division of Hammas industries)

Yes I do agree with you. Saudi is the biggest hypocrite of all. 
Maybe not their rulers, but their people and ministers.

www.politicsandprotest.org       Less we forget.

Yes I do agree with you. Saudi is the biggest hypocrite of all. 
Maybe not their rulers, but their people and ministers.

If I were to be a wanted Muslim terrorist where is the safest 
place to hide? In Saudi, off course. Better than Pakistan. US 
will not attack Saudi because their ruler are consider friends 
of US. Come to think of it, sometime it is just a show,like 
what Arafat is doing.

Thanks for the early greeting.

Thank you for you post.

Regarding Isreal in Palestinian. I think we must look into the 
palestinian way of dealing with Isreal. The whole Palestinian 
comunity is fight the Isreal. Children as young as 3 are taught 
how to hate the Isrealis. How to die as suicide bombers, how to 
use themselves as shield to shield their so call soldiers from 
retaliation by Isreal. Just one simple question. If Isreal want 
to kill the innocent civilian of Palestinian, I don't think any 
Palestinian will be left. It is the Palestinian themselves, 
always hiding thier so called soldier behind them. These 
Palestinian will then plan and hit cowardly on innocent Isreal 
citizen. Then their leaders will tell the western media that 
many of civilian were killed because of bullying by Isreal. 
This only stirs those sympathiser to protest the action of 
Isreal. Once Isreal withdraw, another bomb will goes off and 
the history will repeat over and over again.

Honestly, I feel Isreal should take control of the whole of 
Isreal including West Bank and Gaza and allow those that look 
to them as goverment.

Thanks for posting that link. I watched that video a week ago 
and meant to post the link. Its a long load time, but well worth 
it...a very, very powerfull and moving piece. I believe it 
should be required viewing in America's public schools. Fat 
chance of that I'd guess.

wassup mah niggas? I been fucking this nice chick from ecuador 
and she got a pussy so deep that when I fist fuck her hole, it 
goes up to my elbows.  deep pussy and she only five foot three.

http://http.earthcache.net/www.politicsandprotest.org/attack.swf

JUST GO TO THE SITE. I DONT WANT TO END UP HAVING TO EXPLAIN TO 
YOU PEOPLE HOW TO USE A COMPUTER.

Go to Hell and use your mouth on SATAN'S DICK !!!!!!!!!!!!

I Satan Love All Muslim in short Islam

DHAKA, Bangladesh    Bombs tore through four movie theaters 
packed with Muslims celebrating the end of Ramadan on Saturday, 
killing at least 15 people and wounding 200, police and 
witnesses said.

  
 
 
 
The bombs went off within 30 minutes of each other starting at 
about 6 p.m., and were believed planted in the projection rooms 
of the theaters, a police official said on condition of 
anonymity. 

But It won't save on my computer, How do you get it to save as a 
file? The browser won't give save or save as, as an option while 
the file plays. I can save the URL but that is all. 

i get horny sooooooo quiclk. i love to get on my knees for a 
manly hunk, taking his manhood into my mouth and serving him. he 
knows that i do it for free because i get off on being a cheap 
slut and getting fucked good and hard right thru my pretty little 
panties. please guys, please make me beg for it. ooooooo PLEASE!    
            

Sad to see this kind of payback. Just came back from the 
church. We were praying for US, Iraq, Isreal, Palestinian and 
all those trouble area. There were no call for death to muslims 
or any kind like that.

Today is the reading is about John the Baptist who proclaim the 
coming of Christ. Christ does not come with strong armour to 
kill, he came and show us the right path. A path of 
forgiveness, a path of love, a path of faith in God. He did not 
have an army, he has a group of followers who do not kill but 
preach his words

Here is a wonderful prayer for everyone. I say it almost 
everyday together with the Lord's Prayer, Hail Mary and Glory 
Be.

God, forgive me for not always living according to your truth.
Thank you for dying on the cross to forgive and save us from 
our sins.
Come and take the most important place in my life.
Semd your spirit upon me, so that I may become the person you 
want me to be.
Assured of you love and mercy. I thank you Lord

BURN!

3. "The King of the day of judgment. Thee only do we worship 
and of Thee do we beg assistance. Direct thou us on the right 
path. "(1:2, 4, and 5.)

THIS IS FUNNY, JESUS WILL BE THE KING OF THAT DAY ACCORDING TO 
THEIR KORAN, HERE WE SEE THEY ARE ASKING THE READER TO FOLLOW 
JESUS

14. "We gave Moses the book and the miracles. We said unto 
them, be ye changed into scouted apes. And we made them an 
example unto those who were contemporary with them and unto 
those who came after them, and a warning to the pious." (2:53.))

I THOUGHT GOD IS ONLY ONE, HOW COME THERE IS WE IN THE KORAN?

15. "So God raiseth the dead to life, and shows you his signs, 
that per adventure ye may understand." (2: 67.)

JESUS IS THE ONLY PROPHET THAT CAN PERFORM MIRACLE OF RAISING 
THE DEAD, NOT OTHER PROHET DID THAT. SO THEY TOO BELIEVE JESUS 
IS GOD?

Why is it that 3000 Israeli's knew about the ice storms just 
before they hit and left the states they were in, thus escaping 
the destruction.

Must be a 'Zionist plot'.  They control the weather, too!

Beware!

R U STILL MY CUNT?  IT LOOKS LIKE JACKIE BROKE YOUR TWAT.

I THINK SHE LEFT YOU 

PLEASE! DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!!! LET 'EM STARVE.

YOU ARE SO KICKED OUT OF THE NATION OF ISLAM

Saddam Hussein...WOW! The crazy bastard can't even apologize to 
Kuwait without issuing threats and attempting to incite the 
Kuwaiti people to rise up against their goverment and drive out 
the American troops - actually praising those that have attacked 
Americans in Kuwait. Why does this sound familiar?
Praising certain actions, yet not admitting......

Could be. It is always the case, weilding the double edge sword 
of fate as they have. No telling just how deep into debt they 
have gone. When the rich Muslim goes out to the movies and ends 
up dead, will thos bring the message home? Perhapse. Knowing how 
the Jewish work, I would say that Mecca might well be next. 
  If the Muslims want to stop what is very likely to happen 
next, They will have to bring the Islamic Terrorist, Saudi and 
Palistinian, to Justice. 
         We shall see. I can tell you that Special ops is in 
action and the sum of what you see is just the tip of the 
iceburg. 

Cook! 

CAIRO, Egypt    Al Qaeda threatened faster, harder strikes 
against the United States and Israel in a statement attributed 
to the group that appeared on a militant Web site Sunday.

  
 
  
 
"The Jewish Crusader coalition will not be safe anywhere from 
the fighters' attacks," the audio statement said, using a term 
common among Islamic militants for what they see as a U.S.-
Israeli alliance. 

"We will hit the most vital centers and we will strike against 
its strategic operations with all possible means."

The statement was attributed to Al Qaeda spokesman Sulaiman Abu 
Ghaith. The site, which has posted previous statements 
attributed to the terror network, included what appeared to be a 
photograph taken from a video frame of Abu Ghaith.

The Web site also posted a text version of the statement.

The pan-Arab satellite station Al-Jazeera broadcast parts of the 
audio version and said the voice sounded similar to that on past 
Al Qaeda videotapes featuring Abu Ghaith.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

The whereabouts of Abu Ghaith, along with Al Qaeda leader Usama 
bin Laden, have been a mystery since the terror network was 
chased out of its haven in Afghanistan by U.S. bombing following 
the Sept. 11 attacks.

"We will chase the enemy using the weapon of 'terror' by 
widening fighting fronts and conducting more concentrated and 
faster operations ... so [the enemy] feels unsafe and unstable 
on land, air and sea," the statement said.

The statement also said a purported Al Qaeda claim of 
responsibility for the Nov. 28 attacks on Israel targets in 
Kenya was genuine. That claim was posted on several other 
Islamic sites last week.

The attacks in Kenya included a hotel bombing that killed 10 
Kenyans, three Israelis and the bombers, and a botched attempt 
to shoot down an Israeli charter plane.

Sunday's statement said Al Qaeda does not usually claim 
responsibility for attacks but would do so "according to the 
relevant circumstances."

U.S. officials have said they considered the claim of 
responsibility for the Kenya attacks to be credible.

Terrorism experts believe Al Qaeda has made use of the Internet, 
which enables people to communicate cheaply, widely and 
anonymously. It has been difficult to trace and confirm postings 
attributed to Al Qaeda that appear periodically on several sites.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

In Washington, a White House official, speaking on condition of 
anonymity, said the Al Qaeda statement amounted to no more than 
a "same song, different day" threat.

A..badee, A..badee, hee did it again!!!

Thank You! I dont let the freaks on here get me down lol, if you 
dont see me for a few days that usually means my boss is out of 
town, and thus I have to run the place which means 11-12 hour 
days, and SLEEP SLEEP SLEEP as much as I can squeeze in! Yes I 
am TOTALLY Supportive of the US and Coalition Forces on Active 
Duty,( especially since I have a relative on Active) EVERYWHERE, 
but especially in the Middle East! I have been trying to keep up 
and find the "Intelligent Ones" comments on this board, pretty 
hard to do after picking and skipping through all the bullshit! 
Yes I did notice some caution where Afganistan and Iraq are 
concerned, and I know why. Dont worry about it sweetie! After 
all the US and Brittish are the "Top Dogs" on the block lol, so 
to speak! I am CONFIDENT all will go well, and if it doesnt go 
as well as they have planned, we can pretty much blow who we 
need to pieces, well um Allah lol, pretty much without sending 
a "maned" aircraft into the region. Those Drone's are pretty 
precise mo-fo's lol. Someday I think if we have to go from 
country to country to find and kill those bastards that attacked 
us, we may not even have to send any Soldiers, it may be done 
with remote control lmao! HaHa sometimes I dont really think 
they have a clue whom they are dealing with when it comes to the 
US and Brittish! But BOY are they going to find out! Anyway I 
hope all finds you well too. Take Care

Here's some more gift ideas! If you have or know anyone that has 
an X-Box or PS-2, or Playstation Gamecube, or hell maybe they 
have it out now for all systems, but they have this DANDY new 
game called "Desert Storm", puts you right in the "Virtual 
Reality" part of the game, you get to blow away the Arabs 
yourself, and all this other neat stuff! I saw a demo, and it 
looks like a pretty good game! Also I dont know if it's out on 
DVD yet but it will be soon I'm sure, The Movie "Live from 
Bagdad" with Micheal Keaton, and others recreating the original 
CNN News Crew in Bagdad during "Gulf War #1"! Oh yeah where are 
you finding the Usama Doll? I've been looking everywhere and I 
cant find one! Maybe they are sold out! Hmm.. That sounds like a 
great "Stocking/Burqa Stuffer". Anyway let me know about the 
Usama Doll! Take Care :-)

Wouldnt you know that those darling little Iraqi's would hand 
over 11,000 pages of CRAP! Written in Arabic! That we now have 
to decipher! I think Hussien is going to push Bush and Blair a 
bit over the edge with this kind of nonsense. I sure hope those 
few day's were not the end of the inspections! I havent been 
able to keep up with the news the last few days, hopefully this 
next week things will be back to normal at work and I will be 
able to see what's going on! Been catching pieces here and there.
But I think we need a WHOLE lot more inpecting, I just dont 
think a few days and 11,000 pages of bullshit is enough! Anyway, 
you take ESPECIALLY good care :-) Keep me informed!

Osama Bin Laden was last seen playing the road house blues in 
his blew C-5 shoes

You have totally lost it girl! See what you have done? No Body 
was racially profiling you till you mentioned you were Islamic, 
or Muslim, or whatever you call that nonsense of a religion! And 
I dont think anybody really gave a rats ass if you were black, 
green or purple, till YOU brought it to everyones attention! I 
know I didnt care what color you were because BITCH comes in ALL 
colors! But Cyber Police? FBI? Come on you cant be so stupid to 
not know that we have in this Country a little something in OUR 
Constitution called "Freedom of Speech"!!!! Which gives us the 
right to say ANYTHING we want! If you dont like it! Dont read it!
If you cant take it get off the board! You brought ALL this on 
YOURSELF! You ramble on with some Muslim crap after WE were 
attacked by them, what did you expect you were going to get? 
I dont know maybe you are that stupid! And dont think your 
getting anywhere close to me with your tongue or anything else!
That was a sickening post! I think your a couple beers shy of a 
six pack! You need serious help! I hope you find some SOON!

HaHa Blew shoes! Ok where are these dolls? Do they have one with 
Usama with fat tenni's? That's funny! How you been anyway? Hope 
all has been going well with you too!

So...Miss Turkey (via. Holland) won the trouble-ridden Miss 
World pagaent in London, which means it will be held in Turkey 
next year, yet another Islamic country. The events organizers 
are already promising, "it will be bigger and bloodier than 
ever!"



 

Hell yes, I'm doing fine. I just got tickets to the Aerosmith 
Concert on the 21st. Waited until I could get the seats I 
wanted (club concorse), seemed all they had for the longest 
time was nose bleed seats. I must have lucked into some that 
were released late for what ever reason. 
  Still watching the Dradel turn! LOL! I guess Bush needs his 
interpreter to figure out the Saddam letter of UN inspections. 
  Best wishes to you this coming Solstice, Christmas & New 
Year! . 
    Merlyn 

Getting the cyber living room ready for the Super Bowl.. Full 
bar, barbque ribs and Keg beer. 

What is it you want? You still havent said what there is for you 
and me to discuss! I read some of your crap, but I couldnt read 
it all, because you started rambling on about cat's and 
microwaves and well that's just sick! And I am not going to read 
that crap! So besides name calling, or sick shit, is there 
something you want to talk about? Or are you just fucking off 
and think you are going to get under my skin? Because it takes a 
whole lot more than name calling and whatever it is you do to 
piss me off! I've been called alot worse by alot better people 
than you! And get some new material, yours is getting old! Not 
to mention you are looking like there is something psycologicaly 
wrong with you! Like some disorder or something. Anyway if you 
have something to discuss (that isnt gross) it may take me a 
couple days to respond but I will try. If it's sick just forget 
it! Have a nice day :-)

LOL!!

om/cf : HaHa Ewwwwwwwww!!!!

Merlyn : Well that's wonderful! Aerosmith puts on a good concert!
I didnt get to see them last time they were in town, had to work.
But I did play hookey when Korn and Stained came lol..I think 
Bush is going to need a few interpreters for 11,000 pages of 
Arabic Crap! HaHa Yep the Dradel sure turns on this board!
And a Very Merry Christmas to you too, or whatever it is you 
celebrate, is it Christmas lol? 

Well I will catch you guys later, I'm being summoned by this 
child to take her to Wally World!

Take Care :-)  

why dont we talk about your life, ya, your life, how about that?

It seems the action figure dolls are only sold through the 
website at $24.95 a pop. Where is G.I. JOE? He could kick 
anybody's arse when I was a kid....and if there was a dispute 
over whose G.I. Joe had won the battle, then the real fun 
started! Now the Pali kids pack their Osama dolls with homemade 
C4 and pull the string, "Alahlalalalala" BOOOM!!

http://herobuilders.com/

Check out the 'letters to the head toymaker' and the photo-
gallery with suggested poses. LOL!

G.I.JOE MARRIED KEN, AND AT THIS VERY MOMENT THEY ARE TRYING TO 
ADOPT A CHILD BUT SO FAR WITH NO RESULTS.

KIND OF HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ARABS WOULD DO SOMETHING SO STRANGE 
AS TO WRITE IN ARABIC, ISNT IT?

AMERICA IS DEFEATING TERRORISM IN MUCH THE SAME WAY AS IT 
DEFEATED THE VIETNAMESE. AMERICANS BELIEVE THEY ARE WINNING 
AGAIN. ONE ENEMY KILL, AND THREE NEW ENEMIES. IT JUST SHOWS THAT 
AMERICANS ARE INCAPABLE OF LEARNING.

KIND OF HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ARABS WOULD DO SOMETHING SO STRANGE 
AS TO WRITE IN ARABIC, ISNT IT?

Actually most of the report is in English as was required by the 
terms of the resolution Iraq signed. Arabic translators are in 
high demand in the U.S. armed forces. A friend's son graduated 
from high school last year with excellent grades and fluent in 
three languages with a desire to serve his country. He had the 
Navy and Air Force basically biding for his services, and Arabic 
wasn't even one of the languages he could translate...yet. He 
got a sweet deal monetarily for college. He did A.F. basic and 
is in language school now hopefully learning the proper timing 
for a head-slap or crotch-kick exlamation point!

From: Marie 
To: Facts Finder 
Date: Sun Dec 8 20:59:50 2002 
Message:
Wouldnt you know that those darling little Iraqi's would hand 
over 11,000 pages of CRAP! Written in Arabic! 

AMERICA IS DEFEATING TERRORISM IN MUCH THE SAME WAY AS IT 
DEFEATED THE VIETNAMESE. AMERICANS BELIEVE THEY ARE WINNING 
AGAIN. ONE ENEMY KILL, AND THREE NEW ENEMIES. IT JUST SHOWS THAT 
AMERICANS ARE INCAPABLE OF LEARNING.

Your right....the original knee-jerk response of Nuking Mecca 
and the whole of the middle east shit-filled kitty litterbox 
seems the most effective action. It sure brought the Japs to 
their knee's! Good point! Go with the gut.

Those papers handed by Iraqi. US should know is that the normal 
amount of papers if you are talking about weapons of mass 
destruction.

What I don't understand is why US and UK have evidence and 
still do not want to disclose it. I watch the news and find the 
Iraqi statement by their minister to be quite honest. They seem 
to be very confident that they do not have those weapons.

As I say the threat is not Iraq it is the whole muslims 
comunity in the world that is more serious than the supposed 
nuclear that Iraq has. Any muslims can be a walking time bomb, 
depending on how much he suppport the cause of the terrorist, 
how brainwash is he, thinking that he is doing God's work. How 
desperate is he in his personal life (money, family and 
society). Honestly, I don't think the muslims world stand a 
chance, if they have direct combat with US UK and Isreal. It is 
the coward, unsuspecting and evil ways that they practice that 
is doing most of the damage.

What happen if Muslim countries are attack in the same ways by 
special force as in one for one like in recent attack in 
Pakistan theatre. Who knows maybe that will bring out the 
majority muslim to put a stop to those muslim radicals for 
their own safety. Maybe from there they can feel the pain 
suffer by the innocent. I am not suggesting this as, I am 
definitely against such action. How many Muslims feel like I do 
when innocent civilian are kill all around the world because of 
attack by muslims terrorist.

What I don't understand is why US and UK have evidence and 
still do not want to disclose it. I watch the news and find the 
Iraqi statement by their minister to be quite honest. They seem 
to be very confident that they do not have those weapons.


IT IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO EVIDENCE.
WHEN THE U.S.ATTACKED IRAQ IN 1991, WAS SADDAM OUSTED? 250,000 
IRAQI CIVILIANS BLOWN TO BITS. THEN THE U.S.TURNED AROUND AND 
LEFT.
WHEN THE U.S.PASSED SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAQ, DID SADDAM SUFFER? 
400,000 CIVILIAN IRAQI DEATHS DUE TO LACK OF MEDICINE.
IS IT ANY WONDER WHY THE REST OF THE WORLD COULD CARE LESS ABOUT 
THE PALTRY 3,000 THAT THE U.S. LOST? AN UNIMPORTANT DROP IN THE 
BUCKET.

Several thousand civilians died in the collapse of the WTC 
towers, and hundreds of military personnel were killed in the 
attack on the Pentagon   though the numbers are small compared to

    * the hundreds of thousands of civilians incinerated in the 
U.S. fire bombings of Hamburg, Dresden and Tokyo, and in the 
atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki;
    * the two to five million post-World-War-II refugees from 
the Soviet Union who were forcibly returned to Stalin, to face 
either immediate execution or a slow death in the Gulag, on the 
orders of Roosevelt and Eisenhower in Operation Keelhaul;
    * the millions of civilians who died from hunger and disease 
as a result of U.S.-instigated mass starvation of Germans during 
1945-1950 under the Morgenthau Plan;
    * the millions of Native Americans killed by soldiers and 
occupiers of their land in the 19th Century or allowed to starve 
to death by the U.S. government in the 20th (a clear case of 
genocide);
    * the thousands of Iranians tortured and murdered by SAVAK, 
the secret police of the regime installed in 1953 as a result of 
a CIA-led coup which overthrew the popular Iranian Premier, 
Mossadegh);
    * the murder of between 20,000 and 40,000 Vietnamese from 
1968 to 1971 by the CIA in their political assassination program 
Operation Phoenix;
    * the million or so Vietnamese, Laotians and Cambodians 
killed by the American military in the 1960s and 70s whilst 
defending their countries from American domination (or simply 
because they happened to be where the Americans carried out 
their carpet bombings);
    * the tens of thousands of civilians who were tortured and 
murdered by CIA-installed dictatorships in Central and South 
America;
    * the 200,000 people (all civilians) killed (using U.S.-
supplied equipment) as a result of Indonesia's invasion of East 
Timor in 1975 for which prior approval was given by the then 
U.S. President and U.S. Secretary of State (Ford and Kissinger);
    * the six million Brazilian Indians who have died as a 
result of the policies of multinational corporations;
    * the 10,000 to 20,000 people, mostly civilians, killed in 
the U.S.-supported 1982 invasion of Lebanon by Israel;
    * the 300,000 Iranians killed in the Iran/Iraq war, which 
was started by Iraq at the instigation of the U.S. (which 
supplied Iraq with the weapons it used);
    * the 180,000 civilians killed by Reagan's CIA-cocaine-
funded Contras in Nicaragua and El Salvador in the 1980s;
    * the 6,000 (perhaps as many as 20,000) Iraqi civilians 
killed during the 41 days and nights of bombing by the British 
and the Americans in 1991 (during which time the civilian 
infrastructure was targeted, a war crime), including:
    * the 500 civilians (including whole families) burnt alive 
and turned into cinders when American missiles penetrated a 
shelter in Baghdad;
    * the tens of thousands of Iraqi conscripts slaughtered on 
the "Highway of Death" by U.S. Navy pilots during their 
attempted retreat from Kuwait in 1991 (another war crime because 
the soldiers killed were not in a combat situation);
    * the tens of thousands of Kurdish civilians killed in South-
East Turkey during the 1990s by Turkish government soldiers 
using weapons and equipment supplied to them by the U.S. (which 
knew exactly what they were doing with them);
    * the tens of thousands of civilians in Sudan who have died 
due to the absence of medicines resulting from the destruction 
of the Sudanese pharmaceutical plant by American cruise missiles 
in 1998 and from the economic sanctions imposed on Sudan;
    * the one to two million Iraqi civilians , two-thirds of 
them children, who have died in the last ten years as a result 
of the effects of the hundreds of tons of cancer-causing 
depleted uranium left over from the million or so exploded 
rounds of DU ammunition used in attacks by American warplanes in 
the 1991 American/British 6-week terrorist campaign against Iraq 
and from the subsequent U.S./British-imposed economic blockade 
and criminally punitive sanctions (not to mention those killed 
by the bombing raids which occur every week);
    * and the tens of millions of civilians who die every year 
in Third World countries from starvation, disease and despair 
because their countries are mired in poverty and corruption as a 
result of economic exploitation by American multinationals 
acting with the support and approval of the American government.

To those in the higher echelons of a government of a terrorist 
state which, by means of its military and its CIA, has killed 
tens of millions of civilians in foreign countries, the killing 
of a few thousand of their fellow citizens is simply another 
exercise in mass murder, needing a little more planning, but not 
much different to what they and their predecessors have done 
before.

When asked about the number of Iraqis who died in the war [the 
1991 Gulf Slaughter], US General Colin Powell [current US 
Secretary of State] replied:  "It's really not a number I'm 
terribly interested in." 

In August 2002 George W. Bush (whose public utterances have 
finally demonstrated that he is mentally deranged, unhinged, 
demented and a lunatic) and his crony Tony Blair were talking up 
their intention to attack Iraq, going on like a broken record 
about its "efforts to create weapons of mass destruction", 
hypocritically ignoring the facts that (a) it is the U.S. which 
leads the world in the manufacture and use of such weapons 
(Germany and Japan 1945, Vietnam and Cambodia 1960s and 70s, 
Iraq 1991, Kosovo 1999 and Afghanistan 2001   not all weapons of 
mass destruction are nuclear) and (b) it is Israel, America's 
client state in the Middle East, which already possesses 
"weapons of mass destruction" and is entirely willing to use 
them against its neighbours.

Iraq's immediate neighbours do not consider Iraq a military 
threat, so why should the U.S.?  Iraq's missiles can reach parts 
of Europe and Russia but neither Europe nor Russia considers 
Iraq a threat; indeed, in mid-2002 Russia signed a multi-billion 
dollar trade deal with Iraq. Only Israel considers Iraq a threat 
(consistent with the pan-Arab hatred of Israel for its brutality 
toward the Palestinians), and in the U.S. Congress and in the 
Bush Administration what Israel wants Israel gets.

As British elder statesman Tony Benn has said, the American 
desire for a war against Iraq is based not on any concern over 
what weapons Saddam Hussein might possess but springs from the 
desire of the U.S. to grab Iraq's oil.

Yes it is strange that a report DEMANDED by the United States 
and Britain from Iraq that was printed entirely in English in 
1991 would be written in Arabic this time! Obviously you know 
NOTHING about History! We did NOT win in Viet Nam (read your 
above post)We did however kick the living shit out of Iraq in 
1991. We put an end to World War Two. I think its safe to say 
yes us AMERICANS  are winning again, and it may take a bit but 
we will win in the end. Not just us, our coalition countries 
also. Since there are so many of them that jumped on the "I Hate 
Terrorism" too bandwagon! One enemy kill= One less terrorist. 2 
join the terrorism bandwagon, 3 more join the hate terrorism 
bandwagon. You have shown that you are incapeable of passing the 
10th grade, if you made it that far. So guess you havent learned 
much. Better brush up on your history because you need to know 
what your talking about first before you decide for us what you 
think is right. Instead of providing accurate fact! Because the 
only one talking out of their ass is you!

Oh brother you think you have your facts straight but you are so 
full of shit! How about the AMERICANS killed in Pearl Harbor, 
that brought on the Bombing of Hiroshima etc..How about 7+ 
million Jews that were slaughtered by Hitler that caused the 
refugees who werent Russian they were German, and they took part 
in the execution and extermination of Jews, that casued them to 
be returned to Stalin. How about the thousands of  AMERICANS 
that were killed prior to 1953 in Iran, that brought on the CIA-
Lead Coup that in turn overthrew Mossadegh. The murder of 
Thousands of AMERICANS that were fighting to free Viet Nam 
(because we were asked by the at the time government to help!) 
And so on and so on...See if your going to tell the story, tell 
it right! Tell both sides! IF we are asked to help we do. If you 
do anything to the US  EXPECT  retaliation in return. How many 
countries have we helped? We send food, medicine, money, 
Soldiers, I for one am not going to set back and watch you make 
AMERICANS  look like the bad guys! There are 2 sides to every 
story, and you can bet they did something to us first, before we 
did anything to them. But your to chicken to reveal that arent 
you? Well most people know this and know your full of shit 
anyway. Your just another anti-AMERICAN we have delt with your 
kind before! You only see what you want to see. Not both sides. 
So therefore you are really not important. There are a whole 
bunch of Soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetary in VA 
and across this Country that say YOU ARE DEAD WRONG  though! 
Just a drop in the bucket my ass! Wherever you are, I bet at one 
time or another your country has recieved some kind of help from 
the US. And you have the audassity to critizise them. 

My Life? It's boring! Work come home work come home sleep sleep 
sleep lol. How about yours? You mean you went through all this 
crap to ask about my life? Something tells me your up to no 
good! Hmmm what's really going on? 

Dick Cheney says it's time for another war with Iraq.
He says Iraq is an evil nation.

What Dick Cheney doesn't say, is that he sold $23 million 
dollars worth of technology to Iraq.

Beginning in 1998, his company sold more technology to Iraq than 
any other corporation. Then Dick Cheney lied about it in a July 
23 2000 interview with ABC and only admitted the truth after the 
facts leaked from his own company.

Cheney's technology has enabled Saddam Hussein to sell more oil, 
strengthen his grip on power, and build new weapons of mass 
destruction.

When Cheney left Halliburton with a $30 million bonus, America 
was left with a new threat to its security.

NO I DID NOT SAY THAT AMERICA WON THE VIETNAM WAR, MAYBE YOU 
SHOULD TAKE A READING COURSE TO LEARN YOUR OWN LANGUAGE. 
AMERICANS BELIEVED THAT WE WERE WINNING BECAUSE OF FALSIFIED 
REPORTS. JUST AS THE FOOLS IN AMERICA, SUCH AS YOURSELF BELIEVE 
WE ARE WINNING AGAIN. AND AS YOU FALSELY PROCLAIMED, THE SOUTH 
VIETNAMESE ASKED THE U.S.TO HELP THEM. IT IS A LIE, BUT IM SURE 
YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF SEEING TWO SIDES TO A STORY. ANY OF THE 
FACTS IVE QUOTED CAN BE LOOKED UP, BUT I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT 
BOVINE AMERICANS SUCH AS YOURSELF, ARE TOO BUSY GATHERING FAT TO 
THEIR BODIES TO BOTHER WITH FINDING ANY TRUTH TO ANY STORY WHEN 
THEY CAN WALLOW LIKE USELESS PIGS IN FRONT OF A BOX WHICH WILL 
TELL THEM HOW TO THINK.

NOT ONLY A DROP IN THE BUCKET, BUT A SMALL DROP IN THE BUCKET.

We did however kick the living shit out of Iraq in 1991.


YES, TO REMOVE SADDAM FROM POWER? NOT AT ALL. MERELY TO KILL 
INNOCENT IRAQI CIVILIANS. JUST AS INNOCENT AS THE VICTIMS AT THE 
WTC. YOUR IGNORANCE IS AMAZING. PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH SAID AT 
THE TIME THAT THIS IS NOT AGAINST THE IRAQI PEOPLE, THEN 
PROCEDDED TO KILL 250,000 OF THEM, IN CIVILIAN INSTALATIONS, 
WHICH CONSTITUTES IN THE U.S. SIGNED GENEVA CONVENTION, AS A WAR 
CRIME.
IF CIVILIANS IN OTHER COUNTRIES DESERVE TO DIE, THEN MAYBE THE 
PEOPLE IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER DESERVED TO BE KILLED ALSO.

Oh brother you think you have your facts straight but you are so 
full of shit!

I WILL STAND CORRECTED IF YOU WILL SHOW ME HOW I HAVE GONE WRONG.
DO YOU HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHAT THE WORD FACT MEANS? I FEEL I MUST 
TELL YOU, BECAUSE YOUR RESPONSE SHOWED THAT YOU DO NOT 
UNDERSTAND THE WORD.
FACT

n 1: a piece of information about circumstances that exist or 
events that have occurred; "first you must collect all the facts 
of the case" 2: a statement or assertion of verified information 
about something that is the case or has happened; "he supported 
his argument with an impressive array of facts" 3: an event 
known to have happened or something known to have existed; "your 
fears have no basis in fact"; "how much of the story is fact and 
how much fiction is hard to tell" 4: a concept whose truth can 
be proved; "scientific hypotheses are not facts"

DOES THIS HELP YOU IN YOUR CONFUSION?
PLEASE DO NOT BE EMBARRASSED, I REALISE THAT MANY AMERICANS ARE 
NOT VERY MUCH EDUCATED, AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND THEIR LANGUAGE 
VERY WELL. 

Since there are so many of them that jumped on the "I Hate 
Terrorism" too bandwagon! One enemy kill= One less terrorist. 2 
join the terrorism bandwagon, 3 more join the hate terrorism 
bandwagon. 

BY YOUR VERY OWN WORDS YOU ADMIT THAT THE WAR ON TERRORISM IS 
FUTILE, UNLESS YOU BELIEVE OUR OBJECTIVE IN THE WAR ON TERRORISM 
IS TO MAKE FRIENDS ACROSS THE GLOBE.
HAVE YOU READ ANYTHING ON THE FACT THAT THE ONLY REASON THE 
U.S.HAS THE  NUMBER OF ALLIES IT HAS IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE PAID 
THEM? PAKISTAN ONLY AGREED TO HELP AFTER THEY WERE PROMISED 
SEVERAL BILLION DOLLARS IN AID. SAUDI ARABIA REFUSED THE USE OF 
ITS AIR SPACE UNTIL A FEW MORE BILLION WERE PLACED IN THE POT.
DO YOU HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE TO BE YOUR FRIEND?
I DONT.

MARIE, YOU ARE AS MOUTHY AS YOU ARE STUPID.

AND I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF YOU WERE THE ONE SPAMMING THIS 
BOARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN! FUCK OFF, YOU STUPID SLUT.

very true babyboy

I guess someone HAD to do it! LOL!!
I just have one question, Where is the Colin Powel doll? LOL!!

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MUSLIM BLAAH BLAAH DAMN MUSLIM BLAAH BLAAH DAMN MUSLIM 

So THERE you FUCKERS!

The above replys to Marie, they seem a lot like.......Walter! 
LOL!

When asked about the number of Iraqis who died in the war [the 
1991 Gulf War (not slaughter)], US General Colin Powell [current 
US Secretary of State] replied:  "It's really not a number I'm 
terribly interested in." 

WELL SAID, COLIN! FUCK'EM!

The above posts contain a lot of numbers, with no scource as to 
who compiled them. While I have do doubt there is some truth in 
all that information, but much of it smacks of typical middle 
eastern propoganda that can be found at thousands of pro-Islamic 
websites. Another box.

too fuckin' true. 

Also too fuckin' true. And .. a little one sided. We did after 
all drop the atomic bomb for a reason.. sad as it was. 
Power is a double edged sword. Nothing but a butcher tool in the 
wrong hands. Thought; what would the world order be now..if the 
United States had stayed out of world war 1&2? Not a pretty 
thought. 

"Deck the halls with rounds of ammunition, La la la...." >ring, 
ring, "Oh! it is my cell phone! Hello? Hello? Ah..Mr. Shaorn, 
How is the new West bank wall coming along? and the kids? and 
wife?" "This is not a social call Arafat! You are not allowed to 
come to the Christmas Mass at the church. If you do we will bull 
doze what is left of your bagel stand..er Palace!" "But Sharon, 
that is not in the Christmas spirit!! How can you be so, so much 
a bastird?" "You forget I am a Jew! and you are the leader of 
the Hammas! we are not friends" "But Sharon, can't we put our 
differences aside for Christmas?" "No! not since you had your 
workers of evil bomb four movie theaters full of Muslims during 
Rhamidan festival!!" "That was not me Sharon! I have no more 
men, you know that! You blew them to bits with your chicken shit 
army in their american helicopters!!, stop blaming everything on 
me Sharon, it is not fair!! and further more, stop sending me 
stale bagels, and I ....Hello...Hello....Damn cell phone!"



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,72509,00.html

The above posts contain a lot of numbers, with no scource as to 
who compiled them. While I have do doubt there is some truth in 
all that information, but much of it smacks of typical middle 
eastern propoganda that can be found at thousands of pro-Islamic 
websites. Another box.

ANY OF THE NUMBERS CAN BE VARIFIED, FEEL FREE TO DO SO AT ANY 
TIME. ANOTHER ACTION YOU CAN TAKE WOULD BE TO DISBELIEVE ANY 
PIECE OF INFORMATION YOU DONT LIKE, AND CALL IT MIDDLE EASTERN 
PROPAGANDA. THE SECOND CHOICE REQUIRES NO EFFORT WHATSOEVER, 
WHICH WILL AUTOMATICALLY MAKE IT A POPULAR FAVORITE WITH 
AMERICANS. 

A LITTLE AMUSING THAT UNPLEASANT FACTS ARE REPORTED AS ONE SIDED.
WHEN YOU READ NEWS FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, DO YOU CHEER BOTH 
SIDES? OF COURSE NOT. YOU PICK ONE SIDE, OR THE OTHER, OR 
NEITHER. YOU MENTIONED THE UPCOMING SUPERBOWL. WILL YOU BE 
CHEERING BOTH TEAMS? WHY DO YOU THINK I SHOULD?

Well, does that mean you are on what ever side is against 
America?? (that is what I meant) You site everything from the 
bombing of Japan to Iraq.. As for unpleasant facts, you should 
remeber I agree that America should stop giving money to Saudis 
and everyone they want to buy off, Let alone stop getting into 
campains and special ops that kill civilians. Land mines are 
just one issue for example. But you spring an argument full of 
numbers with little or no fact to back them up. One that is not 
clear and has little meaning to what is going on here. Saddam 
got what he had coming to him for biting the hand that feeds 
him. Arguably America (Bush Family) should watch where they 
invest their money.   

NO, IM NOT ANTI-AMERICAN. I SIMPLY DO NOT AGREE WITH MARIES 
VISION OF THE U.S.AS THE HAPPY GLOBAL HELPERS. I KNOW THAT THERE 
ARE MANY AMERICANS WHO TAKE THIS VIEW, BUT I DO NOT ENVISION MY 
GOVERNMENT AS A GROUP OF RED, WHITE, AND BLUE SMURFS.

But you spring an argument full of 
numbers with little or no fact to back them up. 

THE NUMBERS ARE THE FACTS. YOU CAN DISPUTE THEM OR AGREE WITH 
THEM. THE USE OF ATOMICS IN JAPAN CAN BE DISPUTED NOW, BUT NOT 
WITH THE SAME VIEW AS IN 1945. WE HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF KNOWING 
THE OUTCOME. THERE ARE MANY WHO BELIEVE IT WAS WRONG TO USE THE 
ATOMIC BOMB, BUT REFUSE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ALTERNITVE WAS 
1,000,000 U.S.CASUALTIES. AN OPEN MIND CAN GRASP THE REASONING 
IN THAT.
BUT NOT 250,000 CIVILIAN DEATHS IN CIVILIAN INSTALATIONS, WHICH 
WAS AN OBVIOUS SCARE TACTIC USED AGAINST IRAQ, SINCE THE U.S.WAS 
SITTING RIGHT OUTSIDE OF BAGHDAD, WHEN IT ABRUPTLY TURNED AROUND 
AND LEFT. NOT TO MENTION A WAR CRIME BY OUR OWN SUPPOSED 
STANDARDS.

I BELIEVE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS GONE TERRIBLY WRONG WITH 
AMERICA. I BELIEVE THAT THE DISASTER OF SEPTEMBER 11 IS CHOCK 
FULL OF FABRICATIONS, BUT UNLIKE THE CONSPIRICY NUTS, I DONT 
KNOW WHAT THE OBJECTIVE IS.
I DO KNOW THAT WHENEVER THERE ARE GROUPS OF BILLS THAT INFRINGE 
ON THE CONSTITUTION OR BILL OF RIGHTS TO BE PASSED,BUILDINGS 
BLOW UP. WITH A PRECISION THAT AMATEURS DO NOT POSSESS.
I DO KNOW THAT THE FIRST PLANE TO HIT THE WTC WAS NOT A 767 AS 
REPORTED, BECAUSE THAT AIRCRAFT HAS ENGINES UNDER MID WING, AND 
THE PICTURES SHOW NO ENGINES.
I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT UNDER THE SECOND 
PLANE THAT IVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE ON ANY AIRCRAFT EVER. CHECK ANY 
PICTURES OF THE 2ND PLANE APPROACHING THE SECOND TOWER. ANYONE 
CAN SEE IT. A TUBELIKE PIECE THAT EXTENDS NEARLY TO THE REAR OF 
THE PLANE.
I KNOW THAT IF A PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON, THERE WOULD BE PIECES 
LEFT BEHIND.

Precision, bombing. You are correct. There have been accounts of 
demolition in the trade center. Precision explosives brought the 
trade centers down. Here is why I think so. 
1, many reports of explosions from those who were there
2, Demolition like collapse of the trade center, they both fell 
exactly strait down. the odds against that happening are 
incredable
3, Osama happens to be a demolition expert( I would have to dig 
to find these reports but they are credable)
4, Fact that a failed attempt to do just this happened before. 
  I will have to look at some of the pics of the planes again, 
got any links? 
  Pantagon attack, very odd. many problems with the physical 
remains of the plane. It would seem the plane exploded on impact 
and some other device penitrated the very solid building. 
  Planes are made of very light material, reasonably so, and are 
unlikely to penitrate a solid reinforced building. 
  Too many odd results. Nothing making any real sense.
It is a very odd number of unanswered questions. As for the 
Oklahoma bombing, even more odd unanswered questions. I remember 
the removal of three explosive devices that never went off. And 
never were explained. Odd considering this was supposed to be a 
truck bomb. And a bomb made of fertalizer just doesnt add up to 
the damage. It would cause a shock & windows to blow in. Not 
destroy the structure. 
      Bull shit just can't cause that.
  So you can see... we may never get answeres, and if we do, 
those who find them some how end up committing suicide... 
strange to say the least. 
   I can dig up facts, but I think you know them. 
              viper?

something wicked this way comes?

http://serendipity.magnet.ch/wot/flight175almosthitswtc.jpg

I REMEMBER VIPER. I CAN SEE HOW YOU MIGHT THINK I AM HE. BUT HE 
HAD A PLAN TO REMEDY THE SITUATION. I DONT. I HAVENT GOT ANY 
PLANS FOR GOING TO AFGHANASTAN, IM VERY PICKY ABOUT WHAT I EAT, 
AND THE MERE THOUGHT OF A GOATWICH DELUXE MAKES ME ILL.

BY THE PRICKING OF MY THUMBS, SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES.
ACT I SCENE I   SHAKESPEARE      MACBETH

Why Kissinger? Isn't he Jewish? Why a republican? Certainly he 
has the experience and credentials but he hardly seems like the 
most un-biased choice to lead such an investigation. Plus, he's 
older than dirt. I can't recall this being mentioned on the 
board before. In fact, I am amazed Kissinger's appointment has 
created so little controversy. Personaly, I can't stand the guy. 
Just the name reminds me of the Vietnam war.

Oh well, back to work, hehehe.

If you watch the time sequence, you'll see that it happens like 
this: 

- A plane hits tower #1, blowing a hole in it high up.  The 
expected things then happen: 

- The building stays up.  A reinforced concrete building is 
*extremely* strong.  Terrorists set off a large bomb *inside* 
that building without significant damage. ... 

 - The second plane hits the second tower, lower and moving 
faster.  It blows a bigger hole through it, showering debris on 
the street, but the building is clearly still standing and still 
looks quite solid. 

- The second building begins burning, also from the impact point 
up. 

- Perhaps a half hour later, the fire in the first building 
*goes out*.  It is still smouldering and letting off black 
smoke, but there is no flame.  ... 

- The fire in the second building goes out. 

- Then, later, the second building suddenly crumbles into dust, 
in a smooth wave running from the top of the building (above the 
burned part) down through all the stories at an equal speed.  
The debris falls primarily inward.  The tower does not break off 
intact and collapse into other buildings. ... The crumbling 
comes from the top (above the  damage).  It moves at a uniform 
rate.  All of the structural members are destroyed in a smooth 
pattern, so there is no remaining skeleton.  The  damage is 
uniform, symmetric, and total. 

In summary, it looks exactly like a demolition   because that's 
what it is. 

- The first tower collapses in a similar demolition wave. 

There's no doubt that the planes hit the building and did a lot 
of damage. But look at the footage   those buildings were 
*demolished*.  To demolish a building, you don't need all that 
much explosive but it needs to be placed in the correct places 
(in direct contact with the structural members) and ignited in a 
smooth, timed sequence. ... 

Built in destructon. The towers were designed like a unibody 
automobile. Difficult to distroy. The first attempt didn't even 
bother them. The outer hull of the buildings could be stripped 
off and the center structure would still remain intact. It is 
different from normal steel structure buildings. One example; 
the flag on the top, remained intact... pole and all. These 
buildings were designed to take an impact and survive. 
   They collapsed strait down. so strait that the top landed 
right side up!. Now what are the odds? you do the math. 
         

Despite reports from numerous eyewitnesses and experts, 
including news reporters on the scene, who heard or saw 
explosions immediately before the collapse of the World Trade 
Center, there has been virtual silence in the mainstream media. 
  
Television viewers watching the horrific events of Sept. 11 saw 
evidence of explosions before the towers collapsed. Televised 
images show what appears to be a huge explosion occurring near 
ground level, in the vicinity of the 47-story Salomon Brothers 
Building, known as WTC 7, prior to the collapse of the first 
tower. 
  
Van Romero, an explosives expert and former director of the 
Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center at New Mexico 
Tech, said on Sept. 11, "My opinion is, based on the videotapes, 
that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were 
some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the 
towers to collapse." 
  
The collapse of the structures resembled the controlled 
implosions used to demolish old structures and was "too 
methodical to be a chance result of airplanes colliding with the 
structures," Romero told The Albuquerque Journal hours after the 
attack. 
  
Implosions are violent collapses inwards, which are used to 
demolish buildings in areas of high density, to prevent damage 
to surrounding buildings. Precision-timed explosives are placed 
on strategic load-bearing columns and beams to cause the 
controlled collapse. 
  
Demolition experts say that towers are the most difficult 
buildings to bring down in a controlled manner. A tower tends to 
fall like a tree, unless the direction of its fall is controlled 
by directional charges. The WTC towers "smokestacked" neatly, 
falling within the boundaries of their foundations. 
  
Skeptics say this could not have happened coincidentally and it 
must have been caused by strategically placed and precisely 
timed internal charges. Videotape images may reveal these 
internal charges precipitating the controlled demolition of the 
towers and WTC 7. 

Good question. Out of all the people, Kissenger would have never 
even enterd my mind. He is a diplomat, knows nothing about 
planes, buildings etc. so as always... the question answers 
itself. Who better not to figure it out? And who better to be in 
the hip pocket of the GOP. 
  Kind of like appointing a mindless dweeb to head up homeland 
security, not someone from the FBI or the CIA. A politician with 
no experiance at all in the field. Hey if you have any proof 
that he does, let me know, I'll feel better about it. But as far 
as I can see he is a puppet put in charge of everyone that might 
just blow this case wide open. Just in time for the 
investigation. Funny thing that. Also funny how so many lead FBI 
and CIA just quit.. what are the odds? Perhapse just as good as 
the ones that got Bush elected when the vote came down to the 
one state that old Jeb Bush just so happened to be the governer 
of. Now look at the whole picture.. everything put together, 
Saddam and all. Just too many coincedences. Too many just so 
happened to be that way things. Way too many.  

A LOT OF THE 9-11 CONSPIRICY STORIES POINT TO A ONE WORLD 
GOVERNMENT. MY QUESTION IS WHY? WHAT WOULD WE GAIN? THE ONLY 
ANSWER THAT COMES TO MIND IS THAT THE WORLDS OIL SUPPLY IS IN 
MORE TROUBLE THAN WE ARE TOLD.

The U.S. didn't get involved in WWII until the llth hour.  
Canada had been involved long before we were.  (one of the 
reasons some Canadians hold animosity toward us--we tend to take 
all the credit when they did most of the work)

In a word yes. Everything is infromation, gathering and control. 
One world government, no. One world bank, yes. Since the 
beginning, religion has struggled to control, now they see that 
dream being threatened by a new more devistating world 
domiation. Perhapse we have to look at the world order and the 
American directive to understand. 
  Long ago, America was the bread basket and producer of the 
world goods. Things like the dust bowl and strip mining began a 
new trend. This trend became a directive. Use everyone elses 
natrul resource first, keep our for last. Ever wonder if there 
is any oil here? think it's all gone? perhapse it is in Texas. 
  Now the directive is to control the world resource, thus 
Saddam, and the meddling in the middle east. 
  What does 9-11 have to do with this? think... What is 
money? ...Human resource. Doesn't take much to guess the rest. 
How can a government keep control? Divide and rule... Democrat / 
republican... Young / Old... been the same since Cesar. 
  So why the theatrics? why the big buildings? Oil tankers? and 
so on being blown up.. Shock. Media control, and now. Lets see 
the results. 
  Airlines file bankruptcy. Most Civilian business, CEO 
embezzelment, collapse of the free market system, and again.. 
control. Why cell phones? tracking, think here for a minute. I 
buy a ticket to a show, Aerosmith, it has a bar code. Now my 
actions are recorded and stored in memory. They could just wait 
for me to be scanned at the gate, and bingo... got me. 
  Scary? yup. 
Gotta keep your cards close to the chest. Watch what you do. 
Cell phone conversations, easy to intercept. Easy to record and 
the phone is a locator. By triangulation, it finds you. Think 
about it, surrounded by antennas, the phone is located. They 
know down to the second what you do. and they sell it to you by 
the minute. 
  World oil supply, worth the fight? no. Not to us, not to the 
American. But to the world bank, like diamonds. Free resource, 
no human to pay, no labor. 
  So...9-11, what does history teach us? Remember? the Jews, 
Germany, Gold, Banks and control. Sound like a repeat? Yes. 
Who wants the jews to loose control of the Euro and the world 
economy? Who.... just think a second. 
   Give me your best guess. 

Clue, silicon. 

IT WOULD SEEM TO BE THE SAME PEOPLE WE FOUGHT IN THE LAST WORLD 
WAR. THE TWO COUNTRIES THAT ARE COMPETITION FOR HIGH TECH 
ADVANCES. GERMANY AND JAPAN.

Pamela Anderson's boobs are taking over America?

i changed my name to merlyn wizard because only i and a few 
other humans know merlyn was a wizard, ha, looks like i fooled 
the board. I am he.

who wants a piece of me, come and fucking get a grip, 
hahahahahah!!!!

golly gee, and i was in a trance and about to ask about the name 
change too.  you are really are a wizzer.  and i thought you 
just rounded the bend.

I am glad that, at last you post your point of view.

First of all Merlyn and Om/Cf has anwered part of my reply. I 
do not want to sound one sided. I see the picture and sound 
accordingly.

Your reply to my post and my reply in small letters:-

IT IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO EVIDENCE.
WHEN THE U.S.ATTACKED IRAQ IN 1991, WAS SADDAM OUSTED? 250,000 
IRAQI CIVILIANS BLOWN TO BITS. THEN THE U.S.TURNED AROUND AND 
LEFT.

I know a lot of Saddam army were killed definitely no 250,000. 
As for civilian as you put the amount as. Yes thousand were 
killed. Many were use as human shield by Saddam but again not 
250,000. If a country that declare war on another country, 
definitely there would be heavy casualty on the losing country 
but the biggest question. Why did this war started? Who  
started it. Will there be sanction or attack on Iraq if Iraq 
did not attack Kuwait? How many Kuwaitis died on the invasion 
by Iraq. What will happen to Kuwait if American and its allies 
did not intervene. Will Saudi or Iran be the next target after 
Kuwait? It has been 13 years since. Does the Arab remember how 
it all started.

Saddam was not ousted, this was because, it was not the agenda 
of the war. The agenda was to push Iraq back to their own 
country.

WHEN THE U.S.PASSED SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAQ, DID SADDAM SUFFER? 
400,000 CIVILIAN IRAQI DEATHS DUE TO LACK OF MEDICINE.
IS IT ANY WONDER WHY THE REST OF THE WORLD COULD CARE LESS ABOUT

Good question, Sanction was imposed to oust a dictator. It is 
for the Iraqi people to realize what the leader will bring to 
them because of his behaviour but because of his behaviour none 
of the people dare to oppose. If you can remember his two son 
in law who has to run away and was as to return and then killed 
because of some disagreedment with their father in law. They 
were actually asking their father in law to change his policy, 
which angered their dictator father in law. So if Saddam policy 
remain, sanction remain and the poor civilian suffers. If we 
allow his policy to attack another country. The other countries 
civilian will suffered

THE PALTRY 3,000 THAT THE U.S. LOST? AN UNIMPORTANT DROP IN THE 
BUCKET.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

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Wow, those number that is killed in fighting between two policy 
is shocking but I would say many of the figure you gave were 
all exaggerated.

Each time I read or see on the media on killing in the muslims 
countries the figure get higher from one report to another. 
Just the opposite from the figure shown if killing happen in 
America or other countries. Take WTC for example. The figure 
were estimate to be around 5 to 6 thousand in the beginning but 
as the figure start to show it became less and less until the 
actual amount is really show. Whereas in Muslims countries, 
when attack, if 100 hundred were killed the number would be 
reported as 500 or more(eg Jenin) as the time goes and who 
knows years down the road it will incease to 2000 killed. We 
have seen this example many time.

As for bombing of Japan, Asia thank America for stopping the 
war. Do you know how many innocent civilian die in Asia in the 
hand of the brutality of Japan. Do you know what happen in 
Nanking during the Japanese occupation. Women are rape and 
killed. Men were burried alive. Babies were thrown in the air 
an stab with their rifle bayonet as the fall. All these are 
brutality of war. Such brutality can only be found nowadays in 
the muslims dominated countries where rebels killed non 
muslims. eg in Indonesia, Phillipines and even in West Bank and 
Gaza.

As for vietnam, many life has been lost, not only the north 
vietnamese but also the south vietnamese and American life too. 
Don't forget during that period. North vietnam was a threat not 
only to south vietnam but also to the whole of Asia. And the 
problem was becaue of communism. After the war they suffer for 
15 years before they change their policy, same as China of 
communism. Now they are accepted by Asian and western 
countries. Been to this two countries in the early 90's and 
now. It has change tremendously. They now understand much 
better the of globalization and democracy.

As for most of the rest of your report casualties. It is all 
past history. No quarrels or fight will go without injury. It 
all depend on who is stronger. The best thing to do is to avoid 
fight.

Lastly, why bring out history, and remind us the suffering, why 
don't we look forward to peace, stability, unity, forgiveness, 
acceptance and most of all love for human kind. As I mention 
many many many times, if Muslims accept the non-believers, 
especially Isreal. Then the world will be at peace so that we 
can again bring properity back, so that we can help the 
starvation of the poor countries and bring education, knowledge 
wisdom to people around the world.

Keep up with your post. May what you believe bring you peace, 
forgiveness, love and understanding and not revenge, hatred and 
anger in your life. Peace be with you.

When we have a variable that cannot be seen, we have to look at 
the symptoms, results and factors to explain its existance. 

FIRST LET ME SAY THAT THE 250,000 IS NOT CONCRETE. I HAVE LOOKED 
THROUGHOUT THE INTERNET NOT FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, BUT ONLY 
FOR MY OWN INTEREST, AND I HAVE SEEN NUMBERS RANGING FROM 
100,000 TO 500,000. MOST INFORMATION AGREES ON 250,000 CIVILIAN 
DEATHS. NEARLY ALL OF THESE DEATHS OCCURED FROM THE BOMBING 
RAIDS, NOT FROM GROUND TROOPS. WHY IT IS UPSETTING IS BECAUSE 
MOST OF THESE CIVILIANS WERE KILLED IN CIVILIAN AREAS, NOT 
MILITARY. THESE RULES WERE AGREED UPON BY THE U.S. AS A CODE OF 
CONDUCT IN WAR, AND WE ARE NOT FOLLOWING THEM. THE SAME IS ALSO 
TRUE OF KUWAITI DEATHS AT THE HANDS OF IRAQ. I CAN FIND NO 
NUMBER THAT CAN BE POSITIVELY RELIED ON.
WHAT I BELIEVE THE U.S. DOES NOT UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE SHOCK OF 
SEPTEMBER 11 WAS NOT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE KILLED, BUT THE FACT 
THAT AMERICA WAS ATTACKED IN SUCH A MANNER. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE 
KILLED WAS QUITE SMALL COMPARED TO WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE 
EXPERIENCED IN ATTACKS OF TERRORISM OR IN MILITARY COUPS. IS THE 
U.S. IN AN UPROAR OVER 500,000 MURDERED IN AFRICA LAST YEAR? NOT 
ONLY ARE WE NOT CONCERNED, MOST AMERICANS DONT EVEN KNOW. THAT 
IS HOW CONCERNED WE ARE WITH TERRORISM OF OTHERS. BUT THE U.S. 
EXPECTS THE WHOLE WORLD TO BE OUTRAGED ABOUT OUR 3,000 DEAD.
3,000 COMPARED NEXT TO X MILLIONS IS A PALTRY AMOUNT, BUT TO 
POINT THIS FACT OUT MAKES ONE SOUND HEARTLESS AND UNPATRIOTIC.
TO ME, 3,000 THAT ARE VIEWED AS MORE IMPORTANT THAN X MILLIONS 
IS MUCH MORE HEARTLESS, AND ONCE AGAIN MILLIONS OF LIVES WILL BE 
FORFETTED IN ORDER TO PURCHASE MORE WEAPONS FOR OUR NEWEST ILL-
CHOSEN TEMPORARY FRIENDS.

Powerful influences are no longer contained by National borders, 
and the world order now has this new dimension. Alqueda is just 
one small example. Israel is but a small, tiny country.. yet 
Islam has hated them for over a thousand years. Islam means 
submission. It would seem these factors now take on a new 
position in the world order. The Nazi party, Isalm, Hammas and 
countless others no longer reside exclusive to any country. It 
more likens itself to the pirates and the trade triangles, 
drugs, wepons and money.
Notice that the drug companies are now no longer held liable for 
their actions. You speak of Africa, genocide and missed the one 
killer, aids. 
   These things begin to shed light on the culprates. Sadly they 
are not as great an advasary as we might deem the black market 
or the facist organizations. But these are the arms and legs of 
the culpret.  

As for bombing of Japan, Asia thank America for stopping the 
war. Do you know how many innocent civilian die in Asia in the 
hand of the brutality of Japan. Do you know what happen in 
Nanking during the Japanese occupation. Women are rape and 
killed. Men were burried alive. Babies were thrown in the air 
an stab with their rifle bayonet as the fall. All these are 
brutality of war. 


JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION
THROUGHOUT ALL MY SCHOOLING, NONE OF OUR HISTORY BOOKS SAID ONE 
THING ABOUT NANKING. YOU ARE PERHAPS THE 5TH OR 6TH PERSON WHO 
HAS EVER MENTIONED IT TO ME. AMERICAN CHILDREN WERE NOT TOLD OF 
THE ATROCITIES DONE THERE. I DID NOT READ OF IT UNTIL MANY YEARS 
OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL.

ALSO YOU SAID THAT YOU THINK MY NUMBERS OF IRAQI DEATHS ARE 
EXAGGERATED. YOU CAN LOOK THEM UP TO CHECK. I AM NOT USING 
MUSLIM PROPAGANDA REPORTS. MY NUMBERS ARE 250,000 CIVILIANS DEAD 
FROM THE GULF WAR, AND 400,000 FROM SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAQ.
THE NUMBERS FROM MOST MUSLIM REPORTS ARE 500,000 DEAD FROM THE 
GULF WAR, AND 1,000,000 AS A RESULT OF SANCTIONS, SO YOU CAN SEE 
IM NOT PICKING THE NUMBERS THAT PLACE THE U.S. IN THE WORST 
LIGHT.

I DID NOT FORGET AIDS, BUT HAVE READ MANY REPORTS RANGING FROM 
THE FAMOUS GREEN MONKEY STORY, TO THE REPORTS THAT SAY THAT AIDS 
DISPLAYS EVERY CHARACTERISTIC OF A MANUFACTURED DISEASE.

you.  Just kidding.  But your website is weird

I, never for a second, expected nor demanded world outrage for 
the attacks of 911. I must say, I have a nieve approach to world 
politics - countries are viewed as individual people, and as in 
life, we all know who our friends are.

Also, I am aware of atrocities being committed throughout the 
world; at present, parts of Africa...the food is there, people 
are being systematicaly starved to death for political reasons. 
I wish I could help with more than a prayer, but the fact is Im 
afraid any monetary help will end up in the wrong hands, kinda 
like my tax dollars.

America has made, and will make mistakes in foreign policy; I 
have stated this before and have zero guilt in admitting it. The 
good we have done outweighs the bad, IMHO, and my head never 
hangs in shame as an American. At least not for long. I am proud 
of my country and what it has accomplished in 200 short years. 
Name one other country in this world that has the mixture of 
people, and cultures that we have in America? England, maybe. 
The rest that have as diverse a populataion, do not live in 
peace amongst each other. Sorry there....off on a tangent!

The U.S. is far from the ONLY exporter of military arms. EVERY 
country capable of manufacturing their own arms, sells them. And 
under far less media scrutiny and official paperwork than the 
U.S. This is something I am very interested in researching when 
I have the time. Country by country, military arms exports. 
Having said that, when I read of Israel working on weapon 
systems with China and others.......I see visions of new 
textbooks and computers in U.S. school classrooms. As I've said 
before, Israel is not a baby anymore; they can defend themselves 
with less than 12 billion U.S. dollars.

Wass' up Walter? NANKING! Fess up or I'll dig up bones, I swear!

IN THE WORDS OF THE IMMORTAL WHATS-HIS-NAME....PUBLISH AND BE 
DAMMED!

BWHAAAA! Damnit all to hell...no keyword search on this B*eetch! 
Now switching to coffee, (takes sip) ahhh, I'll be up all night!

Russia has overtaken the United States to become the world's 
leading conventional arms exporter for the first time, 
increasing deliveries sixfold over the last five years.

The annual report for the Stockholm International Peace Research 
Institute (SIPRI) said that there was a sharp reduction in US 
deliveries last year, though it remained by far the largest 
exporter for the last five years.

At the same time, Russia increased its volume of exports to 
India and China.

However, the SIPRI report said the relatively small number of 
outstanding orders compared with those of the US could not 
sustain Russia's position beyond 2001.

China topped the list of importers for 2001, though India and 
Pakistan both increased their spending on arms imports over the 
year.

Increase predicted

Russia's exports rose 24% to nearly $5bn in 2001 compared with 
the US figure of $4.6bn, a drop of 65% since 1998.


But the US was still by far the biggest exporter over the last 
five years, with $44.8bn compared with Russia's $17.4bn.

Two years ago, experts predicted an increase in Russian 
conventional arms sales after US President Bill Clinton decided 
to deploy a missile defence system.

The increase is likely to be shortlived, though, as Russia has 
only a small number of major recipients and has made only 
limited investments in military research and development.

Indian change

India currently receives 80% of its weapons from Russia.

But Delhi changed its acquisition policy after the US lifted its 
arms embargo in September.

Though the US itself is unlikely to benefit significantly from 
the change, France and Israel are now likely to weaken Russia's 
position in the Indian market.

In Millions

RUSSIA  4979
U.S.  4562
FRANCE 1288
U.K.   1125
GERMANY  675
OTHER  3602

SOURCE:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2042404.stm

U.S. to fund Iran-based Iraqi oppo group 

By Eli J. Lake
UPI State Department Correspondent

WASHINGTON, Dec. 9 (UPI) -- The United States has approved 
military funding for six Iraqi opposition groups, including an 
Iran-based organization that maintains close ties to that 
country's hard-line Islamic clerical leadership. 

The group, known as the Supreme Council for the Islamic 
Revolution in Iraq, or SCIRI, is an umbrella for a number of 
Shia Islamist groups including some that have in the past 
coordinated activities with Iran's intelligence services. The 
group maintains an office in Tehran that is paid for by the 
Iranian government.

Under an order signed by President Bush Saturday, SCIRI and five 
other Iraqi opposition groups would be eligible for $92 million 
worth of military training and defense articles from the 
Pentagon -- authorized by the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act. 

(snip)

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021209-050003-8913r

Of the active conflicts in 1999, the United States supplied arms 
or military technology to parties in more than 92% of them --39 
out of 42.  In over one-third of these conflicts - 18 out of 42 
- the United States provided from 10% to 90% of the arms 
imported by one side of the dispute.

Between 1986 and 1995 the United States delivered $42 billion 
worth of armaments to parties in 45 ongoing conflicts.

U.S. arms or U.S. military technology were used by adversaries 
confronting U.S. soldiers in Panama, Iraq, Somalia, and Haiti.  
A significant portion of the $6 billion in covert U.S. arms and 
training sent to Afghan rebel groups in the 1980s was funneled 
to right-wing Islamic fundamentalist forces that now use these 
resources to attack U.S. allies and citizens.

From: om/cf 
To: X 
Subject: Whadda ya mean the U.S. doesn't learn? 
Date: Mon Dec 9 22:34:22 2002 
Message:

IT JUST MAKES YOU WONDER HOW STUPID CAN GET. BUT AT THE SAME 
TIME, I DONT WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

HOW STUPID CAN IT GET I MEANT

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The comparison of the causlties of Africa or any other place 
that has been trouble by their own political issue cannot 
compare to WTC where there is not war or political problem. If 
US citizen who is not happy with BUsh goverment and bomb the 
WTC. People would just sympathise but this is not the case. It 
is like if you had quarrels or fight in your own family. Nobody 
say anything even if there are people kill. The outsider would 
just feel sorry and try to mediate with members of the family. 
In WTC case it is some people who come and stay in your house, 
eat in your house, befriend your family members and then kill 
some of them. Simple explaination, what would you do. You 
retaliate and attack those responsible.

Killing in Africa, Indonesia and others, isn't all these the 
problem of Muslims. Just look at Afghanistan now, do these 
muslims extremists give Afghan people a chance to manage their 
country. NO, they are now trying to assasinate the leader. When 
is this going to stop. Isn't the people in Afghan much happeir 
now then when they were rule by the Taliban

Ok lets say your number is correct. I was asking how it 
started. Will there be sanction? Will US and its allies attack 
Iraq.? and I also mention in a war there is no limit to 
casualties. You fight a war to win. US learn the mistake from 
Vietnam. So as Senior BUSH prepare the war on Iraq. He said 
that US will not fight with his hand tight up again.

So if te casualty was what you report was then it is very sad 
that their irresponsible has cause such pain to his country.

U.S. arms or U.S. military technology were used by adversaries 
confronting U.S. soldiers in Panama, Iraq, Somalia, and Haiti.  
A significant portion of the $6 billion in covert U.S. arms and 
training sent to Afghan rebel groups in the 1980s was funneled 
to right-wing Islamic fundamentalist forces that now use these 
resources to attack U.S. allies and citizens.

ID CALL BEING FIRED UPON WITH OUR OWN WEAPONS BY FORMER ALLIES A 
POLITICAL PROBLEM.

Isn't the people in Afghan much happeir 
now then when they were rule by the Taliban

IM SURE THAT THE ONES WHO SAY"NO"WILL NEVER APPEAR ON THE 
NIGHTLY NEWS.

Just look at Afghanistan now, do these 
muslims extremists give Afghan people a chance to manage their 
country. NO, they are now trying to assasinate the leader.

THEY ARE NOT MANAGING THEIR COUNTRY, WE ARE.
THE NEW LEADER IS CLOSELY ALLIED WITH THE NORTHERN ALLIANCE.
WHEN THE AL-QAEDA IS REMOVED, AND THE U.S. DEPARTS, ID BET 
EVERYTHING I OWN THAT THE NEW LEADER WILL SOON BEGIN TO POSE 
RESTRICTIONS ONCE AGAIN ON HOW THE PEOPLE WILL ACT, AND SPEAK. 
AND DRESS. HOW DO I KNOW THIS? THE NORTHERN ALLIANCE WAS IN 
POWER BEFORE THE TALIBAN TOOK OVER, AND IT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY 
DID. 

AND THE REASON THAT I BRING AFRICA INTO THE DISCUSSION IS THAT 
WHEN THE OPPOSITION GOVERNMENT COMES INTO HOMES, DRAGS OUT ALL 
MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY, SLITS THEIR THROATS, AND THROWS THE 
BODIES INTO MASS GRAVES, IT CEASES TO BE A POLITICAL PROBLEM, 
AND BECOMES A SITUATION OF TERRORISM.

Ok lets say your number is correct. I was asking how it 
started. Will there be sanction? Will US and its allies attack 
Iraq.? and I also mention in a war there is no limit to 
casualties. You fight a war to win. 

YOU FIGHT A WAR TO WIN. I AGREE. THE QUESTION I NOW HAVE IS: 
SINCE 1945, WHEN HAS THE U.S. DONE THIS? WE CANT BE DISCUSSING 
THE GULF WAR, BECAUSE NEITHER SIDE SURRENDERED. IN WAR THERE IS 
NO LIMIT TO CASUALTIES? OK. WHICH SIDE DECLARED WAR? IT WAS 
CALLED A UN POLICE ACTION. 
THE U.S. HAS SIGNED DOZENS OF TREATIES WHICH LIMIT THE ACTIONS 
THAT CAN BE USED TO DEFEAT THE ENEMY. ANY OTHER ACTIONS HAVE 
BEEN LABELED AS WAR CRIMES.ONE OF THESE IS FIRING ON A CIVILIAN 
INSTALATION.
THE ACTIONS OF THE U.S.IN IRAQ IN THE GULF WAR IN 1991 ARE 
LISTED IN THE SIGNED TREATIES AS WAR CRIMES. ONE OF THESE CRIMES 
WAS THE KILLING OF CIVILLIANS IN CIVILIAN INSTALATIONS. BEFORE 
YOU TELL ME THIS WAS A MISTAKE, I MUST TELL YOU THAT THESE 
ACTIONS WERE REPEATED DOZENS OF TIMES, IN A PATTERN THAT LEAVES 
NO DOUBT AS TO THE INTENTION OF THE ACTIONS.

by Stephen Gowans

The United States is knowingly violating Article 54 of the Geneva
Convention which prohibits any country from undermining "objects
indispensable to the survival of (another country's) civilian 
population,"
including drinking water installations and supplies, says Thomas 
Nagy, 
a
business professor at George Washington University.

Writing in the September 2001 issue of The Progressive, Nagy 
cites
recently declassified documents that show the United States was 
aware 
of
the civilian health consequences of destroying Iraq's drinking 
water 
and
sanitation systems in the Gulf War, and knew that sanctions 
would 
prevent
the Iraqi government from repairing the degraded facilities.

During the Gulf War, coalition forces bombed Iraq's eight multi-
purpose
dams, destroying flood control systems, irrigation, municipal and
industrial water storage, and hydroelectric power. Major pumping 
stations
were targeted, and municipal water and sewage facilities were 
destroyed.

Article 54 of the Geneva Convention prohibits attacks on 
"drinking 
water
installations and supplies and irrigation works."

Nagy says that not only did the United States deliberately 
destroy
drinking water and sanitation facilities, it knew sanctions 
would 
prevent
Iraq from rebuilding, and that epidemics would ensue.

One document, written soon after the bombing, warned that 
sanctions 
would
prevent Iraq from importing "water treatment replacement parts 
and some
essential chemicals" leading to "increased incidences, if not 
epidemics,
of disease."

Another document lists the most likely diseases: "diarrheal 
diseases
(particularly children); acute respiratory illnesses (colds and
influenza); typhoid; hepatitis A (particularly children); 
measles,
diphtheria, and pertussis (particularly children); meningitis, 
including
meningococcal (particularly children); cholera (possible, but 
less
likely.)"

Then U.S. Navy Secretary John Lehman estimated that 200,000 
Iraqis died 
in
the Gulf War, but many more have died since. UNICEF estimates 
that well
over a million Iraqis have died as a result of the U.S-led 
sanctions
regime, in place for the last decade. Some 500,000 children have 
died, 
and
an estimated 4,000 die from various preventable, sanctions-
related
diseases, every month, says the U.N. agency.

Despite the massive human toll, the United States continues to 
support 
the
sanctions regime, arguing that sanctions won't be lifted until 
U.N.
inspectors are free to return to Iraq to verify that the country 
has 
rid
itself of weapons of mass destruction.

American Scott Ritter, a former U.N. arms inspector, claims that 
Iraq 
is
effectively disarmed, and has been for some time.

And deaths from sanctions exceed those from weapons of mass 
destruction.
Political scientists John and Karl Mueller say that sanctions 
have
"contributed to more deaths during the post Cold War era than 
all the
weapons of mass destruction throughout history," including 
deaths at
Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

At one point, former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright 
said 
that
despite the civilian deaths the sanctions were "worth it."

Meanwhile, Israel, a U.S. ally in the region, is widely believed 
to 
have
an arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons. While in violation of 
countless U.N.
Resolutions ordering its withdrawal from the Occupied 
Territories, 
Israel
faces no sanctions and no order to disarm. Amnesty 
International, which
has warned that Israel's crackdown on the latest Palestinian 
uprising, 
or
Intifada, borders on war crimes, recently condemned Tel Aviv for 
its
"utter disregard for human life in the Occupied Territories" and 
for 
its
violations of international law. And yet even calls for 
intervention as
mild as placing international observers in the Occupied 
Territories 
have
been rebuffed.

The Gulf War erupted after Iraq invaded neighboring Kuwait. 
After the 
war,
the United Nations imposed sanctions, ordering Iraq to disarm. 
Iraq's
violation of international law in invading its neighbor was 
cited for 
the
harsh treatment. But critics of the policy say that punishment 
for
violations of international law are being meted out unevenly and
hypocritically. Israel's innumerable transgressions go 
unpunished, 
while
governments that have fallen out with Washington, often over 
investment 
or
debt repayment issues, are treated severely.

Moreover, say critics, the United States itself has a long track 
record 
of
violating international law. Washington's undermining of Iraq's 
water
treatment and sanitation facilities in violation of the Geneva 

Convention
is just one of many recent transgressions, including the bombing 
of
Yugoslavia, Sudan, Afghanistan, and the continued bombing of 
Iraq.

U.S.-led NATO forces also targeted civilian infrastructure in 
Yugoslavia.
At one point, U.S. Air Force General Michael Short explained 
that 
NATO's
bombing campaign was aimed at causing misery in the civilian 
population.
"If you wake up in the morning," said Short, "and you have no 
power to
your house and no gas to your stove and the bridge you take to 
work is
down and will be lying in the Danube for the next 20 years, I 
think you
begin to ask, 'Hey, Slobo, what's this all about? How much more 
of this 
do
we have to withstand?'"

NATO forces used depleted uranium munitions in Yugoslavia, as did
coalition forces in Iraq. Depleted uranium may be toxic, and may 
be
responsible for an epidemic of cancers and birth defects that 
have 
arisen
in Iraq over the last decade. Some have charged that Gulf War 
syndrome, 
a
cluster of mysterious and debilitating illnesses suffered by 
U.S. and
allied soldiers, is related to depleted uranium. Others point to 
the
contamination of soil, water and air by carcinogenic effluent 
from
destroyed industrial facilities and chemical plants as being 
responsible.

Nagy says that what is most disturbing about the documents is 
that they
reveal a U.S. government concerned more with the potential 
negative
publicity of the deaths, than with the deaths themselves. 
Dealing with 
the
public relations downside of massive killing is a common theme 
in U.S.
foreign policy. During the Gulf War a bomb that hit a 
marketplace and
killed civilians led CBS News correspondent Dan Rather to 
remark: "We 
can
be sure that Saddam Hussein will make propaganda of these 
casualties."
Frequent reference is made in the documents Nagy has uncovered 
to the
potential for Iraq to use epidemics for propaganda purposes.

When Nagy sent the documents to the media last fall, only two 
reporters
wrote lengthy articles. One was Felicity Arbuthnot, who wrote in
Scotland's The Sunday Herald that the "US-led allied forces 
deliberately
destroyed Iraq's water supply during the Gulf War  flagrantly 
breaking 
the
Geneva Convention and causing thousand of civilian deaths."  
Despite 
the
seriousness of the allegations, and their being backed up by 
official
documents, the story quickly fizzled.

"I came to America because of the great, great freedom which I 
heard
existed in this country. I made a mistake in selecting America 
as a 
land
of freedom, a mistake I cannot repair in the balance of my 
lifetime."
-Albert Einstein, 1947

"The US must carry out some act somewhere in the world which 
shows
its? determination to continue to be a world power." - Henry 
Kissinger,
post-Vietnam blues, as quoted in The Washington Post, April 1975


"We do not have any defence treaties with Kuwait, and there are 
no
special defence or security commitments to Kuwait." - Margaret 
Tutweiller,
US State Department spokeswoman, 24th July 1990, nine days 
before 
Iraq's
invasion of Kuwait

"I will never apologize for the United States of America - I 
don't 
care
what the facts are."  -President George Bush 1988 [Bush was 
demonstrating
his patriotism by excusing an act of cold-blooded mass-murder by 
the 
U.S.
Navy. On July 3, 1988 the U.S. Navy warship Vincennes shot down 
an 
Iranian
commercial airliner. All 290 civilian people in the aircraft 
were 
killed.
The plane was on a routine flight in a commercial corridor in 
Iranian
airspace. The targeting of it by the U.S. Navy was blatantly 
illegal. 

"The greatest crime since World War II has been U.S. foreign 
policy."
-Ramsey Clark [Former U.S. Attorney General under President 
Lyndon
Johnson]

"The U.S.A. has supplied arms, security equipment and training to
governments and armed groups that have committed torture, 
political
killings and other human rights abuses in countries around the 
world."
-Amnesty International ["United States of America - Rights for 
All"
October 1998]

I WILL FIGHT ANY FOREIGN NATION THAT ATTACKS MY COUNTRY.
I WILL KICK THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF ANYONE BURNING OUR FLAG.
I WILL VIEW WITH PURE HATRED ANYONE WHO ATTEMPTS TO REMOVE MY 
FREEDOMS, ESPECIALLY IF ITS MY PRESIDENT.
IF THE CITIZENS OF THE U.S.GIVE AWAY ITS FREEDOMS AND RIGHTS, I 
WILL LEAVE IT WITH A BROKEN HEART. 
IM KEEPING A SUITCASE PACKED.

A former Iraqi citizen now living in America wants Saddam taken 
out; speaks of the crimes Saddam committed against the Iraqi 
people. 250,000 Iraqi citizens slaughtered

http://www.missouri.edu/~jschool/nanking/Table/table.htm

http://www.tribo.org/nanking/

http://www.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/NanjingMassacre/NM.html

[Instead, a number of Japanese politicians and writers denied 
not just the Massacre but any of their wrong doings in the 
Second World War. They claimed that they had "liberated" Asian 
peoples from Western colonialism. The Nanjing Massacre is one of 
their so-called "liberations". ]

It is always a matter of the choices we make. The Villain we 
face today is not a single entity. This is why it is hard to 
understand. It is a reaper from the past. It is the horrid price 
we pay for those who went before us and the dealing with all 
that is the result of their "choices". We are not wrong, but we 
pay the price of our wrongdoing. No amount of homeland security, 
tactical war or political pay offs will ever stop the problems. 
  We are human, and in so we are also of nature. Nature is a 
cruel teacher; one that teaches survival, side by side with 
creation is death. In religion we state our independence from 
the womb of our maker. In denial we strive for an ideal we call 
peace. We struggle to become what we think we are, all along 
being as cruel and unforgiving as nature intends us to be. 
  Our leaders must learn wisdom, yet also must act on instinct. 
Until we admit our basic nature we will always question our 
motives. 
   Merlyn  

lesbians and faggots adorn this board

Everyman: Now THAT'S a carol! Much better than my attempt, and I 
bet you're still receiving royalty checks/cheques from it..hehe.

Marie: You're welcome btw! Your resiliance..I shouldn't have 
doubted for a second, nonetheless a kind word here and there can 
sometimes make all the difference, I'm sure you'd agree.

I'll just start by saying, I'm not a gung-ho type of person 
Marie. The reason I first posted here was to express my 
sympathies in some way with the American nationals on here 
following 9-11, first and foremost. I've formerly admitted to 
being bias in favour of the U.S. because of my affinity towards 
your nation's music and culture, amongst other reasons. When 
people posted here, a year or more ago, saying that the U.S. 
and/or those in the WTC etc somehow "deserved what they got"..I, 
(along with numerous others) made my feelings clear on the 
matter. To me 3,000+ innocent people dying needlessly regardless 
of which country they resided in, be it even the mighty U.S. of 
A., was deserving of sympathy. As far as I'm concerned, that 
extends to whichever nation suffers the loss of civilian lives 
through conflict. 

It's true the U.S. and U.K. for instance share common heritage, 
and therefore it follows on, a broadly common world view, as has 
been demostrated over the last 50 years especially. What I don't 
wish to see are lives being lost needlessly, whether military or 
civilian, through misjudgement of any given situation by those 
with the power to give orders in the military or through 
incompetance by politicians. Family members, (as you'll of 
course appreciate far more than I), want their loved ones to 
come back from any military conflict in one piece A.S.A.P. Of 
course I'm going to worry!, even though I'm not being directly 
effected, because the soldiers are risking their lives on behalf 
of our respective nations. Though people losing their lives is 
bad enough, I don't want people losing their lives in vain. 
THAT...is what worries me.

As I've said, I'm confident in the professionalism of our 
nations' military forces. That's NOT in question. I just keep a 
wary eye out, that's all. 

Btw, you can't beat Halo on the X-Box, trust me. Take care Marie.

Facts Finder & Om/cf: In regards to the terrible bombing in 
Bali, it turns out the Indonesian national Amrozi, one of the 
self-confessed bombers, assumed, as possibly many locals did, 
that those who frequented the nightclub were primarily 
Americans. He obviously couldn't differentiate between British, 
Australians and Americans. The Bali bombing puzzled me, as I 
assumed al-Qaeda would be targeting Americans primarily, NOT 
Australians or anyone else for that matter aside from Israelis, 
and possibly us British. He's apparantly only apologised for 
killing the Australians there. Charming. A pawn under the 
direction of Cleric Abu Bakar Bashir, who allegedly in former 
speeches, wanted to "turn Australia into a muslim state even if 
it takes 100 years." Immotive stuff, though to smooth things 
over in more recent speeches he merely wishes to have Australian 
society "Islamised". I'm not exactly sure what the difference is 
supposed to be.

Facts Finder: (re Nanu Nanu) Going back some years now, in an 
episode of Mork & Mindy, Robin Williams and the actor who plays 
Exodor had some great lines, and the dialogue was hilarious. I 
viewed one particular episode as being a kind of Mork Vs Exodor 
match-up. A bit like the Six Million Dollar Man Vs the Seven 
Million Dollar Man, both a close run thing in the end. If you've 
not seen either episode, you'll have to take my word for it.

X: Forgive me for picking certain points out in what you've 
posted, much of it very interesting and somewhat introspective. 
There's a fair degree one could comment on, and I'm not 
necessarily informed enough to agree or disagree with what 
you've been saying. But scanning through, you mentioned 'our' 
GREAT LEADER (ahem), Tony Blair. Crony indeed. Possibly so...but 
then Mr.Bush wouldn't have courted the U.N. to gain legitimacy 
in any move to remove Saddam Hussein from power, if it were not 
for Mr.Blair. Not that the U.N. as an institution is some 
paragon of virtue, but it is at least PERCEIVED to have greater 
overall legitimacy rightly or wrongly. The U.S. may instead have 
already been half-way through a war with Iraq at this point in 
time, with most of the Arab world up in arms. Incidentaly, 
Margaret Thatcher just recently saluted him for his 'leadership' 
in regards to the Middle East, so that should be enough to lose 
him the next general election...

She being the 'kiss of death' to any leader she favours nowadays.

(The New York Attack)
 I don't claim to be an expert in engineering, but the large 
volume of burning jet fuel that flooded throughout the 
buildings, via lift shafts and stairs etc, sent temperatures 
high enough to melt the steel frame that held up each floor. 
Once that steel's strength was compromised, there was nothing 
left to support the weight of the floor itself, or any remaining 
floors above it. It's said, that set in motion a 'domino 
effect', (for want of a better phrase) that proceeded to crush 
every floor immediately below it, as the sheer weight of debris 
fell through. Thus, the buildings were seen collapsing the way 
they did. If the buildings' designers couldn't have anticpated 
this, I don't Bin Laden even with his knowledge of structural 
engineering could have anticipated their total destruction in 
this manner.

(The Pentagon Attack)
 I stand to be corrected, if there were no documented eye 
witnesses both outside or inside the Pentagon regarding the 
sighting of an airliner as it impacted (allegedly). It just so 
happened, that the particular side of the Pentagon that was 
struck, was strengthened to double it's prior strength. The 
refurbishment was ONGOING, in order to strengthen the entire 
structure of the Pentagon itself. A French conspiracy nut made a 
lot of money from speculating that a missile must have hit the 
Pentagon. I'd have to agree with Merlyn (Merlyn do comment if 
you wish!), that at least from what I've seen, it's quite 
possible for a plane to disappear in through the building's 
entrance. In computer simulated tests, factoring in the 
comparative strengths of the materials involved, speed and 
trajectory, the aircraft's wings would have folded inwards on 
impact, and carried on through towards the centre of the 
building. The tail, would have snapped back and carried on in, 
under the top of the building's entrance. Improbable on the face 
of it, sure, but in reality quite possible.

(The third plane)
THIS one of the three incidents, was the one that raised a 
question mark in my mind, when I heard that at least one of the 
engines of that plane was discovered a number of miles from the 
crash site, which leaves open the possibiliy of an explosion 
occuring long before impact. If true, that narrows that 
possibilities down somewhat, ie; that it had indeed been shot 
down...
 
Don't feel like we're ganging up on you X. You've made some very 
good points, and you haven't pulled your punches. I agree with a 
good deal of what you say. If I may say I, I think it's a good 
thing we all don't agree with each other's viewpoint(s) 
entirely, otherwise NOTHING AT ALL would be questioned.          

All he needs is to eat a bunch of burritos and that will be the 
lethal weapon.  We all need to stock up on refried beans, fizzy 
sodas and cuchifritos and fart right back.  Of course, he lye 
man, he got all kinds of shit there.  Marie, what you getting 
your husband for Christmas, besides a blow job?

the world is going to hell and im driving the bus

When the aircraft hit the ground in PA it was estimated to be 
going around 200+ mph. Given the way it hit and so on, might be 
it was missing an engine or lost control, either way the end was 
swift to say the least. However one has to factor in the G force 
involved in the last moments. The plane may well have started 
shedding heavy parts on the way down. 
  As for the building collapse, the explosions could be 
attributed to internal collapse as well. The domino theory also 
is very real, given how the structure was made. Suspicion is 
however never going away as the remains will never really tell 
us exactly.
  Just the basic fact that Osama had gotten as bold as he did 
and the Alqueda had taken over the country of Afghanistan, leads 
one to question the scope and just who knew what. 
  But in fact it all turned out to be a paper army, nothing 
really there in force. Seemed like a staged event in many ways. 
        Merlyn  
   

IF TONY BLAIR'S CONTRIBUTION FOR THE UK WAS MERELY TO SPEAK ON 
BEHALF ON THE WAR ON TERRORISM, THE U.S.SHOULD BE GRATEFUL, 
SINCE WATCHING BUSH SPEAK AT THE UN. MANY MEMBERS OF THE 
ASSEMBLY WERE LOOKING AT HIM WHILE HE SPOKE AS THOUGH HE WERE AN 
ESCAPED MENTAL PATIENT WHO HAD FOUND A HANDGUN. MR.BLAIR AT THE 
VERY LEAST GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT ACTION WILL BE TAKEN AFTER 
CAREFUL DELIBERATION.

AS FAR AS PLANES TO THE WTC GO, ID LIKE VERY MUCH TO BELIEVE 
EVERYTHING THAT OFFICIALS HAVE TOLD US, BUT UNFORTUNATLY I DO 
NOT.

ANY NATION WHICH STANDS UP IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE WORLD, AND 
DEMANDS THAT ALL NATIONS IN WARTIME ACT AS THOUGH THEY WERE 
HUMAN BEINGS, AND THEN TURNS AROUND AND BREAKS EVERY RULE 
ESTABLISHED, WILL BE VIEWED BY THE REST OF THE WORLD AS A 
SPOILED, DEMENTED CHILD. OUR PRESENT REPUTATION HAS BEEN BOUGHT 
AND PAID FOR.

In many speaches I get the feeling that I am being told what he 
thinks I want to hear. Truth is he has NO business saying the 
shit he does. Telling people to act like a million acts of 
kindness and so on just makes me hear "read my lips" and I 
cannot buy into anything that man says. The seasoned 
represenatives of the UN must look at him like he is a lying 
sack of crapola. 
   Bad presentation and he heeds a speech wirter that isn't so 
painfully perfectly political. I see no "Bush" in his words. 
Rather I see GOP and by the way vote for me! 
   Doesn't matter if his claims are rediculous and he never 
delivers on his promise : we will get Osama ; as an example. 
Does he ever admit he just cannot? no. ANd his over lay of power 
and manipulation of the FBI and CIA through the Home boy 
security is pathetic. 
   Loosing my confidence as the economy flounders he is. 
       As if he ever had it. 
No, I am even more to the point tired of the two party partisan 
politics. Each screwing the other at our expense. The "party" is 
costing us our reputation in the global arena and each time we 
elect another worst case nut ball from these two "parties" they 
world rolls its eyes and grinds their teeth! 
  It should be more able to accomdate other platforms and those 
who are supporting these politicians should be hald accountable 
for their lobby efforts, I.e. loose their ass and PAY the bills 
their politicians put us up to. Billions to Turkey...just to buy 
an ISLAMIC friendship? In the eyes of the world a lie. There are 
other ways and real commitments that could be mutual. Once spent 
we don't get that money back ever. 
   Just some of the points that I would like to see changed. But 
not planning on ever seeing it. 

MONTREAL   A Cuban stowaway who endured freezing temperatures 
and almost no oxygen for four hours in the wheel well of a 
Canada-bound airliner is seeking refugee status here.

  
 
 
 
The stowaway, who cannot be named because of a publication ban 
by the Refugee Board, landed at Dorval airport in Montreal on 
Friday. He was told Monday he must remain in custody until his 
next hearing Dec. 13. 

The man, an airport worker at the Havana airport, sneaked onto 
the wheel well of the Cubana airline DC-10 before it departed 
for the Cayo Coco resort east of Havana and then headed to 
Montreal.

"I consider myself very lucky to have survived. Thank God," the 
man, who looked to be in his 20s, said Monday evening after his 
first appearance before the refugee panel.

During the flight, he held onto a heating pipe, wrapping his 
shirt around it to hold on. The temperature in the hold was 
believed to be about minus 40 degrees during much of the four-
hour flight, with little oxygen at an altitude of 30,000 feet.

"I kept my face close to it, and that helped me to breathe," he 
told the news channel LCN.

If it weren't for the hot-air tube in the wheel well, he 
probably would have frozen to death. The man said he held onto a 
length of rubber piping when the landing gear opened beneath him.

"I thought that certain parts of my body would freeze. But when 
the airplane descended, I warmed up."

Robert Gervais, an immigration spokesman in Montreal, said 
workers at Dorval Airport saw the man stumble onto the runway 
after the plane landed.

The man was hospitalized for hypothermia and exhaustion, and 
then put in immigration custody.

He is seeking refugee status, similar to political asylum in the 
United States, and his chances of success were not clear. 
Refugee board adjudicator Dianne Tordorf noted he had no family 
in Canada.

ANY MAN WHO GOES THROUGH SUCH AN ORDEAL TO BECOME PART OF 
AMERICA DESERVES CITIZEN STATUS MORE THAN MOST OF US WHO HAVE 
LIVED HERE ALL OUR LIVES. MANY OF US THINK OF WHAT WE'RE OWED, 
AND HE PLACED HIS LIFE ON THE LINE FOR THE PRIVILEGE.
HOW MANY OF US WOULD GO THROUGH THAT TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE 
ENJOYED ALL OUR LIVES?

Drive that bus up the wanna be Wizard's ass

Facts Finder didn't die yet??

Scuds found on North Korean ship 
Vessel boarded in Arabian Sea after trying to conceal origin 

NBC NEWS 
 
WASHINGTON, Dec. 10   U.S. and coalition forces Tuesday boarded 
a North Korean freighter in the North Arabian Sea loaded with 
about a dozen Scud missiles, U.S. officials told NBC News. 


??????
SPLAAAAAT. Is this the sound of shit hitting the fan?


 

Ha! yup, he froze his damn nuts off to get here and in a wheel 
well, 30,000 feet up! He is just lucky the plane had to refuel. 
Canada might be just enough colder to turn him into ice. LOL! 
         Too true, there has got to be a reason some one would 
do that, kind of points to how America can't be toooo bad. 
               

.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,72667,00.html

IM SURE THAT THE ONES WHO SAY"NO"WILL NEVER APPEAR ON THE 
NIGHTLY NEWS.

I saw in some news people who still support the Taliban, but I 
am sure that most people especially the women found back the 
freedom. Now they have radio, TV, games, entertainment, 
education, medical and etc. If these don't make them happier, 
then I really don't understand what those that say NO want.

THEY ARE NOT MANAGING THEIR COUNTRY, WE ARE.
THE NEW LEADER IS CLOSELY ALLIED WITH THE NORTHERN ALLIANCE.

I understand what you mean. Mr Kazai their new leaders were 
chosen by a group of different warlords led group in the 
watchful eye of the not only the US by UN. Look what is 
happening in Afghan before Sept 11, people are running away in 
thousands to seek refuge in other country, Why? because of the 
strict Islamic rules of the Taliban. Although they place strict 
Islamic rules, many who are associate with the Taliban did not 
practice it but use the associattion to terrorize on its 
citizen. Where did I get these news? Everywhere, from the 
Internet to Telivision, Yes you may say it US propaganda but 
those interview were done even before Sept 11

So if there is a chance to change the lifestyle of Afghan who 
has been in war for so long. Why not give it a try.

About Africa, sad isn't it to see people are killed in such 
manner. This is what happen in Indonesia to the non muslims. 
Until today the non-muslims are still living in fear. Just a 
little sparkle,  you will see hundreds killed for no reason, 
just because they are non-muslims.

As for the sanction in Iraq. Again I would point the finger on 
Saddam, if he were to allowed the inspector and not chase or 
frightened them out. The sanction would have been lifted long 
ago. I understand the suffering on sanction which you mention 
is worse then bombing. As I told you I was in Vietnam back in 
1991 and I can see the poverty of the people living there. Now 
they are OK. If Iraq can change its policy with or without 
Saddam, I believe they would be more acceptable to the world 
and business can florish again.

You must always ask yourself why is there the sanction? Who is 
to blame for the sanction. Why other countries like Egyht, 
Turkey and etc do not have the sanction.

As what UK citizen say, we do agree with some of your points. 
All the information you give, can be questions and it is only 
for people who knows the inside that can give you a reply. We 
as people around the world get news, search news, and judge 
whether we want to believe it or not.

The problem is the muslims extremists is making our decision on 
who to side, easier.

Bombing in Bali, Yes I believe they were actually targeting 
American. Whoever done, will claim to be associate to Al queda. 
As mention before, this is make the US concentrate only the Al 
queda. Actually all of them including Al queda should be called 
Muslim terrorist. They are everywhere, as long as they believe 
what the others terrorist is doing is right, they belong to the 
similar group with different name. They may not even have 
connection with one another. Their only connection is their 
believe that US, Isreal and those that support them are their 
enemy.

As for Mork and Mindy, yes I do watch this sitcom. I was crazy 
over Pam Dawber once. Now as I watch it again on repeat, it is 
difference.

There are older television drama that I love. They are Avenger, 
Bewitched, Hogan Heroes, Big Valley, Bonanza, Who's the Boss, 
Happy days and many more. I still love funny sitcom. I have the 
whole colection of Friends.

Anyway as for Nanu Nanu, why I ask was because, I also used to 
use these word for Bye Bye in my email. So when I saw it from 
you, I was thinking, do you know me? since we don't use our 
true identity on this board.

Have a good rest and peace be upon you, Take Care and God Bless

CONTROVERY @ THE NORTH POLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

GNOME, AK - Shocking and disturbing news came out of the North 
Pole this week as a witness stepped forward and exposed the 
described "hell hole" that is Santa's Workshop. 
For years, reports and eyewitness accounts have been leaked 
about the dire and appalling conditions of the toy manufacturing 
plant located on at the North Pole. Up till now these 
accusations were always pushed to the side. It seemed no one 
could, or wanted to believe that Santa Claus was an unfair 
employer or even worse, down right cruel. With this new 
information, however, the public has no choice but to cast a 
suspicious eye northward. 
After several months of personal and ethical debate, an insider 
in Santa's Workshop has come forward, but only with the promise 
that his name will be withheld and he will be "taken care of" 
financially in the wake of the story. 
The witness, asking to be identified only as " Purple Headed 
Heat Seeking Love Warrior " revealed the horrors and the secrets 
behind the demeaning environment that was his home for the past 
5 years, the place he compares to "Disneyland, when it was run 
by Walt himself." 
Perhaps the most disturbing image that " Purple Headed Heat 
Seeking Love Warrior paints is the ritual and constant abuse 
that most of the worker's were subjected to, by none other than 
the jolly fat man, Claus or "The Fuhr" as Santa likes to be 
called. 
"Oh fuck man, it was terrible. Every day it was 'make that damn 
toy, 'fore I whip yo lazy ass.' Then he would whip us anyway. 
And it wasn't no nice little leather whip. This was a full on 
Dominatrix style horse whip with metal studs and shit,"  Purple 
Headed Heat Seeking Love Warrior confessed. "He would make (the 
other 'elves,' who were really nothing but midgets bought off 
the black market) do things that were so degrading. Like, we 
would have to take care of the reindeers 'needs,' and that sick 
sonofafuck filmed the whole thing. I even heard stories that he 
was making a fortune on the internet with midget porn but no one 
ever wanted to talk about that. Man, there are some sick fucks 
out there in the world. And do you think that Mrs. Claus ever 
touched that fat tub of horse shit? Hell no! They both had their 
own special 'elves.' Whenever that fat prick would get frisky, 
one of us would get it where it isn't natural. You know what I 
mean? Right up through ol' the poop shoot. I know of prisons 
that are more caring and gentle." 
Among the other accusations that " Purple Headed Heat Seeking 
Love Warrior has made, comes a horrific image of the "real"" 
Santa. 
"What, you think that gut is real? This is the one thing that I 
still can't think about without feeling queasy. Man, that 'gut' 
is nothing more than his right nut, infected with Elephantitus. 
He has to loop it up under his belt so he doesn't knee himself 
with every step he takes. That's why the missus won't have 
anything to do with the ass fucker. I mean that's some sick 
shit!" " Purple Headed Heat Seeking Love Warrior said. 
Even though " Purple Headed Heat Seeking Love Warrior is still 
bitter about his experiences in the North, he does not plan any 
legal action against the man who almost ruined his life and 
forced him into therapy. 
"He's got so many other problems right now, that I wouldn't be 
surprised if the whole operation falls apart after this 
season," " Purple Headed Heat Seeking Love Warrior said. "I mean 
with the nut, his wife being the whore that she is, and Rudolph 
suffering from liver failure, on account of all the drinking and 
never ending cocaine binge. Yeah that's why his nose is red, 
he's a fuckin' lush. I have never seen any body get that fucking 
crazy on shit since I hung out one night with Drew Barrymore, 15 
years ago."

yep, I am still alive and kicking. I am here to bring peace to 
you. I am here to be your friend, I am here to listen to your 
comment. I am here to absorb whatever you want to say and will 
not hit back and I am here to understand.

Peace be with you even when I die.

Obviously you are not Catholic

I really don't know about other places which I have not been 
but I notice that Christmas is a big celebration all over the 
world. Every year in December places are decorated with 
Christmas decoration, shopping, celebration and whatever. It is 
the time of the year where people seem to be more relax.

Yes I do agree that it has become very commercialize. It is the 
end of the year, bonus are being paid. People are spending and 
partying, exchanging gift, forgiving, reminizing, memory and 
etc and behind everyone mind, including the non christain, we 
know that Christmas the day that Jesus Christ is born.

How we celebrate is another issue. The question is, why do a 
people find joy around this period, directly or indirectly.

Ok, I am not talking about all, I know there are people out 
there ready to shoot, I am talking about the atmosphere around. 
I don't know about other places but I can see such celebration 
im my country (multi races and religion), China, Taiwan, 
Malaysia, Thailand and most European countries.

Jesus came to bring us joy, to save us from our sin, to teach 
us to forgive, to teach us to share, teach to love our enemy, 
and teach us to pray. Here is the most famous prayers he taught 
us

OUR FATHER, WHO ART IN HEAVEAN
HALO BE THY NAME
THY KINGDOM COME
THY WILL BE DONE
ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN
GIVE US TODAY OUR DAILY BREAD
FORGIVE US OUR SINS AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO SINS AGAINST US
DO NOT BRING US TO THE TEST
BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL.
AMEM

Somehow I missed your post regarding Saddam's immediate family. 
LOL!! If one quarter of what I've read is true, Jerry Springer 
must be chomping at the bit! A whiskey guzzling sexaholic does 
not a devout Muslim make! And Iraq may have a difficult time 
fielding sports teams in the future - kicking the ball wide on a 
open shot on goal in a big match is.....just sheer torture! The 
player in question will never LIVE it down.

huh?

I have become a Scrooge. It wasn't always so, and 911 had 
nothing to do with it, so I'll be brief. Christmas in the U.S. 
has little to nothing to do Christ's birth. Sure, people put the 
manger scene in the front yard each year and many do attend 
extra church services, but mostly its about money and commerce. 
For me, it was not a relaxing time at all. In the past few years 
I've changed that, thankfully. I no longer agonize over buying 
the perfect gifts for adults I know - money in a card, then they 
can agonize! Christmas is for the children, as I see it. And for 
kids I will go all out. After all, Christ was born a child, 
innocent and pure, as all children are. Christmas is for them.

SANTA CLAUS IS DEAD !!!

HE IS IN HELL WITH ELVIS GETTING FUCKED IN THE ASS !!!!

You need to stop pushing us into war, PLEASE!!! Your going to 
get us ALL killed!!! Even though I'm only 12 I know what I'm 
talking about! SO PLEASE STOP!!! If you feel that I'm totally 
wrong don't be crying to me when you KILL evrybody and the world 
HATES you!!! STOP, NOW!!!!!!!!!

if the board represents america, america is doomed, wake up 
morons, try to get it right.

You need to stop pushing us into war, PLEASE!!! Your going to 
get us ALL killed!!! Even though I'm only 12 I know what I'm 
talking about! SO PLEASE STOP!!! If you feel that I'm totally 
wrong don't be crying to me when you KILL evrybody and the world 
HATES you!!! STOP, NOW!!!!!!!!!

                          (DEC.10,2002 AZ 8:57PM)

                         

shut up bitch, we are going to war, i will kill and kill and 
kill, then i will kill and kill.

Okay then, I'll play along. Killing is rewarded with more 
killing. Your own. Our own. Those illegal Scud's from North 
Korea intercepted today were headed (most probably) to Yemen or 
Somalia. Scud's require launchers...should be easy to figure 
out. Buttttt, Yemen is our freind, right? No, the people side 
with al Qeada. Ditto Somalia. Ditto very freekin sandbox with 
oil.

And there our troops sit like ducks, waiting to be killed, in 
the heart of those who want Americans killed. And here we play 
touch football with Iraq as Bush attends Mosque's and constantly 
reminds us lowly citizens what a peacefull religion Islam is. 
Something is wrong with this picture. Let our troops do their 
jobs or get them the hell out of middle-east ie. shit or get off 
the pot. To continue unwelcomed occupation in Mooslime countries 
is insane. These people are NUTS! Our troops (our young men and 
women) are in harms way just by being there....anybody remember 
the Beruit marine barracks bombing many years ago? I know some 
of us do. As far as Im concerned, its just a matter of time 
before our troops are the victums of a terrorist attack...and 
the blood will be on the hands of the Islamic nutters AND the 
Bush administration.

I hope and pray that Fact finder outlives your miserable worm 
ass. You pathetic peice of shit scumbag. You never know when 
cancer will come a knocking on YOUR DOOR.  After all, your life 
iisnt over yet, is it?  You sick fuck. You are the same shithead 
that has to make fun of death and sickness because you FEAR 
DYING YOURSELF.  PEICE OF FUCKEN SHIT.....

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"...They shoot without shame
In the name of a piece of dirt,
For a change of accent
Or the colour of your shirt.
Better the pride that resides
In a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides
When a colorful rag is unfurled..."

OR...FUCK YOUR MOMMA AND MAKE MORE TARDS!

And so this is Christmas, for young and for old... 
  And you wonder why it's Christmas
Commercialized, over rated we are told....
  And you wonder why it's Christmas
When religion, gluttony and greed is sold....
  And you wonder why it's Christmas
Politicians and the babies they hold...
  And you wonder why it's Christmas
The birth of Christ we are told.....
  And you wonder why it's Christmas
Like a holiday pressed from a mold....
  And you wonder why it's Christmas
Money in the Christmas card you fold...
  And you wonder why it's Christmas
Perhaps it's not the holiday you've been sold.........
  It just might be a diversion to keep you in line
While you wrap your presents and drink your wine
  We listen to a tale of Christ born divine
We are told it is for us, yours and mine
  Never a thought of all the others who came before
The saints and saviors, seekers and more
  All forgotten and buried in haste
So we can all indulge in thoughtless waste
  While during all our celebration and self serving pleasure
We completely forget our most precious treasure
  Smeared over the real reason for our hearts feeling
Christmas and its grinch come a steeling
  Taking advantage of our inherent love it will rule
When all the while the real celebration is of YULE!

Why did I write this poem? and what does it mean?
  Let me explain, and you will see...
During this time we as natures children "feel" very deeply. We 
have deep feelings that come naturally to us all. These are 
feelings for our mother EARTH and our LIFE and the cycle of life 
and death. 
  What I am saying is that ANY other celebration pasted on top 
of our natural feelings is one that TAKES ADVANTAGE of our 
feelings. Perhaps meant to explain them in religious Dogma, they 
in fact mislead our intent. 
  For thousands of years it has been a time of YULE and the 
various other things that are plastered all over this SACRID 
TIME are indeed robbing of our sacred energy and love for our 
earth. 
  So.. take some of this time aside, for the real reason we feel 
so deeply. 
  And Happy YULE

Well since you seem to be so dead set in your ways, you just go 
ahead and have a good argument! Because nothing I can say would 
have any baring on your state of mind. Just like there is 
nothing you can say to change my mind. Thus "Stalemate"! 
(Returning the favor) IT'S FUCK YOU DICKHEAD!!!!!! 

BLOW ME ASSHOLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Above posted is less than six fucking lines in accordance with 
board rules that everyone ignores.

I do believe our government just said "If you use weapons of 
mass destruction on us, we are going to Nuke you"!!!!

Just like there is nothing you can say to change my mind. Thus 
"Stalemate"! 
(Returning the favor) IT'S FUCK YOU DICKHEAD!!!!!!

ITS TOO BAD WE DONT HAVE VIDEO ON THE BOARD, SO THAT WE COULD 
WATCH YOU STOMP AROUND, AND ACT LIKE A BABY. 

Marie cam?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,72724,00.html

MAYBE A WEEKEND SPECIAL OF HER GETTING ONE OF HER TATTOO'S 
REMOVED....

Wednesday, December 11, 2002
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WASHINGTON    The United States is declaring that it will pull 
out all the stops and use any means necessary   including 
nuclear weapons   against Iraq or other hostile countries in 
response to a chemical or biological attack.

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The threat to use "overwhelming force" if the U.S. or its allies 
are attacked is included in the White House's six-page "National 
Strategy to Combat Weapons of Mass Destruction," to be delivered 
to Congress on Wednesday.

The United States "reserves the right to respond with 
overwhelming force   including through resort to all of our 
options   to the use of WMD [weapons of mass destruction] 
against the United States, our forces abroad and friends and 
allies," the statement reads.

The implicit threat of U.S. nuclear retaliation is a deterrent 
to hostile governments, said senior administration officials who 
briefed journalists about the document Tuesday.

Yes.. a big gun indeed, but, yes what if the bilogical attack is 
from a non-country, like Alqueda?, Hammas? and I could go on & 
on for there are about a hundred of these kind of groups known. 
What does big bad Bush plan to do then? And as we all know, it 
is the most likely thing. And one has got to ask, if indeed the 
pot isn't calling the kettle black? I guess it just has to be 
said, to convince the American public that giving up their 
constitutional rights in exchange for hollow threats is worth it 
LOL! Some how I don't feel any safer.....
    The game is in a different dimension now, and Bush boy had 
better figure it out real soon! Might just want to aim an ICBM 
at mecca and paint a big red bulls eye on it. for all the good 
it will do.  

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS........IF ITS FROM A NON-COUNTRY GROUP, 
WE WILL PLAY CONNECT THE DOTS UNTIL IT LEADS BACK TO SADDAM. I 
KNOW YOU'VE SAID YOU DONT THINK WERE GOING TO IRAQ, BUT I THINK 
GEORGE IS LOOKING FORWARD WITH EXCITEMENT FOR JUST ONE WRONG 
MOVE.

I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT HAVE YOU NOTICED NORTH KOREA BEING 
MENTIONED QUITE A FEW TIMES, BUT WITHOUT ANY SPECIFIC REASONS 
FOR BRINGING THEM UP? SUDDENLY, THEY'RE CAUGHT BRINGING IN SCUDS 
TO YEMEN....

THERE'S A LOT MORE GOING ON THAN ANYONE IS TELLING, AND I 
BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE ARE BEING TOLD HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO 
WITH THE TRUTH.

p.s. MY REAL NAME IS REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH MERLIN
[MERLYN],AURTUR,AND CADMUS.

p.s. MY REAL NAME IS REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH MERLIN
[MERLYN],AURTUR,AND CADMUS.

You forgot that your real name is directly associated with 
Soddom and Gomorrah.

did u figure out all that shit by-yourself, u are a full of 
useless information, useless to merlyn and his split 
personalities.

YEP, ALL BY MYSELF. I WAS GONNA ASK YOU BUT SHIT, YOU DONT KNOW 
NOTHIN'. HAHAHA.

BUT IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT BUTT-FUCKING, EATING SHIT, OR 
HAVING SEX WITH ANIMALS, YOU'LL BE THE FIRST ONE I'LL ASK.

I am a catholic, what makes you think I am not.

Board Goat, thank you, it is ok for me, it doesn't mean a thing 
to me. Let him say what he want. Just leave him alone. If he is 
happy with that, so be it. Honestly speaking it hurt him more 
than me, deep down. When you say bad thing about someone and 
this someone say nice things back to you, you will feel the 
hurt. The antidote is apology. No,I am not asking for it. It is 
all up to him.

Peace be with you.

yes, it has become very commercialize. What I meant was how and 
why it become commercialize. Why do businessman use this time 
to make their money? They know that this is the time where 
people are celebrating, feasting and enjoying. This has nothing 
to do with the bible teaching.

What I mean is the feeling a lot of people get during this 
period of the year. Yes children love it more than adult 
because they don't have to spent. It is diffifcult to explain 
but the feeling fo notalgic is always there.

Gimme Back My Missles

(Yemen via. Ronnie VanZant)

Life is so strange when its endin', yes indeed 
Well I've seen the Jihad and 72 dead virgins done gone down on 
me 
But I keep on bombin' like the bombin' man do 
And I've got my act together, gonna BLOWUP all over you 
Gimme back my missles 
Put 'em back where they belong 
Ain't foolin' around, 'cause with 4 wives I always get some 
Your gonna see a whole lot more damage done 
Gimme back my missles

Tough talkin' Bush done run me outta Af'stan town
I smoked enough opium to float a row-boat battleship around 
But I'm leavin' this game one step ahead of you 
Alahlalalalalalalalala!!!...... then KABOOOOM!!!

Gimme back my missles 
Put 'em back where they belong 
Ain't foolin' around, 'cause I always get some

if u butt fuck animals and eat their shit, u will be just like 
your mother. That,i do know. 

I still love Christmas, though the commercial aspect does 
occasionaly depress many people. I've freed myself from what I 
call the 'gift buying competition' we have anually in the U.S., 
where people max-out their credit cards in a effort to 'out-
gift' the competition and then sweat bullets whem the bills 
start piling up. LOL! I still love the decorations and music and 
most of all; seeing the unadulterated joy on the faces of 
children as they open presents. Thats what its about for me; the 
kids. The best Christmas ever for me was the one I donated three 
bicycles I picked up cheap at a police auction, spent a few 
bucks and a few hours repairing them and got to see some needy 
kids faces absolutly light up! I need to get my rear in gear 
again!

While watching this board I felt I had to comment on some things.

First of all, damn that asshole who starts that death with you.  
That individual needs to be pitied, and definitely needs a life.

Allow me to comment on your statement of being Catholic.

If you are Catholic then you seem to have no problem giving $$$ 
to a dynasty that is one of the richest in the world, yet 
declares poverty (in the USA).

Albeit the fact that this religion condones abuse and uses 
congregation money to cover problems that have been going on for 
centuries.  When the shit hits the fan, as is happening in 
Boston, the church is considering bankruptcy.  What a joke.  
While nuns live in an accepted vow of simplicity and poverty, 
priests are treated extremely well.

I AM  (WAS)A CATHOLIC.  I was an altar boy from the 3rd grade 
through my senior year in high school.  I was smart enough to 
dodge the advances from one of those abusive bastards who hides 
behind the collar.  Some of my friends weren't so lucky.

If you are comfortable with your faith that's fine.  I went 
Presbyterian many years ago and am part of a wonderful 
congregation and am active in our church.

I wish you good health and a happy holiday season.

Yes. Many businesses make a big chunk of their sales at 
Christmas time and store employee's benefit with overtime pay.

I've not searched real hard for an answer to this question and 
it may indeed be a stupid two-fold question but all the same, if 
anyone knows....

Is the Catholic Church in America listed as a business? I've 
always assumed religious organizations to be "not-for-profit" 
thereby claiming a tax-free status. If so, how can a not-for-
profit entity in Boston file under bankruptcy law? Im not being 
a smartass, I would really like to know.

The religion is a "not for profit" as is all other recognized 
religions in the USA.

However when lawsuits occur the group may declare monetary 
problems to ensure the sect is protected under law.  That is why 
Cardinal Law went to the Vatican this week to see about "damage 
control."

To be honest...if the Vatican put a gargoyle on EBay they could 
cover the costs of damages.  However the "norm" is to request 
$$$ from parishoners to ensure the members continue to support 
the "Catholic Rite", as per Canon Law.

In other words.....send us the cash and we'll hold it and 
distribute if we have to.  In countries where Catholicism is 
evident and promoted, if the $$$ factor is not available, the 
religion requests "2nd" collections at each service.  To not 
contribute is a sin that requires absolution in a 
private "sacrament" known as confession.

I hope this has helped.  Ask Facts Finder for more info.  I only 
have 40 years of this religion under my belt.

tis not a not-for profit entity, tis for profit, and little 
tootsie rolls.

That's wonderful of you, that the spirit of christmas, giving 
what you can afford to those that cannot.

You guys out there, don't get me wrong when I say about 
spending in Xmas. It is the receiving that is more important. 
Look at the poor when they receive as what OM/Cf has done with 
the bicycle.

The comercial side is done not only by the christain but by all 
others. In our church priest has been preaching about the wrong 
idea in the commercial side.

What I was saying is the feeling of happiness around this time 
of the year. I believe many feel that it is an end to another 
year and the coming of another. As I say bonuses are paid. A 
lot of decoration everywhere and of course the spiritual side 
the birth of Christ.

if u let X suck your cock, he will tell you the answer u seek, 
do it, he knows, trust me. He's gay like that, his priest is gay 
too.

there is nothing wrong with the catholic church, my best 
friends are gay child molesting priests, whats the big deal?

Hi Gerbil Master

I don't give a lot of money to the church. Every Sunday I give 
a small amount that I can afford.

I really don't know what happen in Boston. There will be 
definitely bad apple in every organization. It happen 
everywhere. I think I mention sometime back on this board that 
we had this problem with a christain church here where the 
pastor took part of the sunday taking for his own. Muslims 
teachers molest student, Buddhist monk charge for raped and so 
on. We don't blame their religion. It is the individual who has 
lose their faith with temptation from Satan.

How did the church declare bankcrupt, I cannot understand. As I 
say what happen in boston, I do not know and I do not care 
whether vatican has enough money or not. Although I trust the 
leaders, I cannot gurantee there are no bad apple.

I am surprised that you say that the priest are treated well. 
In my country. Priest a paid an allowance of US$170 while the 
an average income is around US$1,100. With so much sacrifice 
they have to made. I feel they are underpaid.

I am surprised that such molest is common in catholic church in 
states or is it just because some has been caught so many story 
start coming out. All this priest need to be punish not only by 
the catholic church but also by the law.

It is strange, we don't have such problem here. We are not 
force to contribute. It is up to us to give on Sunday. Sometime 
I do not give a cent at all. I know, every muslims have to 
contribute 10 percent of their income to the mosque and that is 
conpulsory.

There must be some collection to maintain an organization if 
you visit the place for free. I believe this is the same 
practice in Presbyterian church too. Coincidently I was from 
Presbyterian church too, I was with the Boys Brigade. My 
grandfather is a pastor in Methodist church. I did not leave 
presbyterian because of disagreement. I left to join the 
catholics faith as they are preaching the same teaching except 
for some disagreement between human wisdom about the faith. I 
have so far never heard of catholics church condeming other 
christain churches but many times catholic church get it from 
the other. eg. like we worship idolsl, we sorship mary and etc. 
All I can say is that it is a long subject to be debated on 
this board.

CANT WAIT TO SEE YOU IN YOUR NEWEST ANIMAL LOVE VIDEO, OR AS 
IT'S BETTER KNOWN "WHEN ANIMALS ATTACK VOL.VI".

If so, how can a not-for-
profit entity in Boston file under bankruptcy law? Im not being 
a smartass, I would really like to know.

LEGALLY, THEY CAN'T. BUT IT'S WORTH A SHOT SINCE IF THEY LOSE 
THEIR LAWSUITS, THEY ALSO WILL MOST PROBABLY LOSE THEIR 
MULTIMILLION DOLLAR LAND HOLDINGS ALSO. WHAT HAVE THEY GOT TO 
LOSE?

I THINK THAT IF THEY DECLARE BANKRUPTCY, THE MAIN CHURCH IN 
BOSTON SHOULD BE TORN DOWN, AND PIECES OF IT SHOULD BE ENCASED 
IN LUCITE WOULD BE SOLD TO PAY OFF THE LAWSUITS.

THERE SHOULD BE AN INSCRIPTION ON THE LUCITE CUBES WHICH READS;
"IT'S ONLY FAIR, NOW I'VE GOT A PIECE OF YOU"

When the Catholic church loses these lawsuits (if they do by USA 
law)they will consolidate churches in areas where $$$$ is not a 
profitable income.

The rich parishes will continue.  The churches that minister to 
the poor and young will close.

That's the way it is......and it's a very sad way.

Thank you both for responding. Im sort of like U.K.Citizen - I 
try to steer clear of religious matters. But sometimes curiosity 
gets the cat.

Locally we have a Christian organization called the Salvation 
Army. They may be nationwide, Im not sure. Anyhoo, near 
Christmas time they set up a person with a bucket and a bell to 
ring in front of many stores to collect money for the needy. At 
a local Walgreens drug store a couple a thugs waited in a van in 
the parking lot for the person tending the collection bucket to 
go inside the store to warm up. When she did they cruised up and 
scooted off with the bucket and its booty, the stand and the 
works tossed into the back of the van. Estimated at $250 for 
bucket and stand, $125 in donations. Merry Christmas to all, and 
to all a goodnight.

http://www.geocities.com/presleyterian_church/home.html          
               Elvis - Jesus Similarities:

    * Jesus said: "Love thy neighbor." (Matthew 22:39)
    * Elvis said: "Don't be cruel." (RCA, 1956)

    * Jesus is the Lord's shepherd.
    * Elvis dated Cybill Shepherd.

    * Jesus was part of the Trinity.
    * Elvis' first band was a trio.

    * Jesus walked on water. (Matthew 14:25)
    * Elvis surfed. (Blue Hawaii, Paramount, 1965)

    * Jesus' entourage, the Apostles, had 12 members.
    * Elvis' entourage, the Memphis Mafia, had 12 members.

    * Jesus was resurrected.
    * Elvis had the famous 1968 "comeback" TV special.

    * Jesus said, "If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and 
drink." (John 7:37)
    * Elvis said, "Drinks on me!" (Jailhouse Rock, MGM, 1957)

    * Jesus fasted for 40 days and nights.
    * Elvis had irregular eating habits. (e.g. 5 banana splits 
for breakfast)

    * Jesus is a Capricorn. (December 25)
    * Elvis is a Capricorn. (January 8)

    * Matthew was one of Jesus' many biographers. (The Gospel 
According to Matthew)
    * Neil Matthews was one of Elvis' many biographers. (Elvis: 
A Golden Tribute)

    * "[Jesus] countenance was like lightning, and his raiment 
white as snow."
    * (Matthew 28:3)

    * Elvis wore snow-white jumpsuits with lightning bolts.

    * Jesus lived in state of grace in a Near Eastern land.
    * Elvis lived in Graceland in a nearly eastern state.

    * Mary, an important woman in Jesus' life, had an Immaculate 
Conception.
    * Priscilla, an important woman in Elvis' life, went to 
Immaculate Conception High School.

    * Jesus was first and foremost the Son of God.
    * Elvis first recorded with Sun Studios, which today are 
still considered to be his foremost recordings.

    * Jesus was the lamb of God.
    * Elvis had mutton chop sideburns.

    * Jesus' Father is everywhere.
    * Elvis' father was a drifter, and moved around quite a bit.

    * Jesus was a carpenter.
    * Elvis' favorite high school class was wood shop.

    * Jesus wore a crown of thorns.
    * Elvis wore Royal Crown hair styler.

    * Jesus H. Christ has 12 letters.
    * Elvis Presley has 12 letters.

    * No one knows what the "H" in "Jesus H. Christ" stood for.
    * No one was really sure if Elvis' middle name was "Aron" or 
"Aaron".

    * Jesus is often depicted in pictures with a halo that looks 
like a gold plate.
    * Elvis' face is often depicted on a plate with gold trim 
and sold through TV.

    * Jesus said: "Man shall not live by bread alone."
    * Elvis liked his sandwiches with peanut butter and bananas.

the salvation army is a combination of addicts and rejects who 
use the name of God and Christ for a free way.

While the intentions of the SA are great, they incorporate and 
hire those who can't nake it in the world, as far as employmenr 
etc.  Many are "recovering addicts" who run with proceeds to the 
nearest liquor store.  That is why you see the locks on the 
kettels.

May the holiday season bless you.

The rich parishes will continue.  The churches that minister to 
the poor and young will close.

IF THATS HOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CONDUCTS ITSELF, THEN THAT 
ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS AS TO HOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 
FEELS ABOUT ITS MEMBERS.

the catholic church is a combination of child molesters and 
rapists who 
use the name of God and Christ for a free way.

While the intentions of the catholic church are great, they 
incorporate and 
hire those who can't make it in the world, as far as employment 
etc.  Many are "child molesters" who run with alter boys to the 
nearest couch or bed.  That is why the word"rectory" causes them 
to quiver.

MAYBE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND NAMBLA SHOULD MERGE, AND BECOME 
THE MOST POPULAR CHURCH EVER!

May the holiday season bless you.

Hey guys! Cum see my site!

www.mariavaginacam.com

You can get right up there, boys. By the way, I'm a catholic, so 
the underaged are welcome!

Enjoy!

Say what you want about the church, it your regular practice to 
condemn other religion but we can judge what is happening in 
the world including the catholic church. I do not disagree 
about the molest that happen. As I say these priests should be 
punished. Mention too that this not only happen in Catholic 
church many other also have similar problem. It is most 
unfortunate that it happen.

Most important we do not call for Jihad or death to those that 
condemn because we know that our God would not want us to do 
that.

Where is God? Having supper with Santa Claus?

A festive CYO Party with crepe paper streamers, contestants for 
the
broom dance, the "Hokey Pokey," baked goods, & FATHER RILEY 
making
sure the lights don't go down too low...

Father Riley And Various Party Goers:
Joe had a girl friend named Mary.
She used to go the church club every week.
They'd meet each other there
Hold hands
And think Pure Thoughts
But one night at the Social Club meeting
Mary didn't show up...
She was sucking cock backstage at The Armory
In order to get a pass
To see some big rock group for free... 

Hey all.  I haven't been around in a while due to the holidays.  
I found this media file that shows an AC-130 taking out 
suspected terrorists and their cars that are filled with 
explosives.  The movie is about 5.5MB in size so only go to it 
if you have a high speed connection unless you want to wait 
around for it forever.

http://skynet.bizatchu.com/AC130_GunshipMed.wmv

Another site.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/

CATHOLICISM IS STUPID

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I love to jack off and lick the cum off my fingers, my priest 
taught me that because we are gay like that.

The church was built on lies.

You?

You will kill your mom and that is about all you will kill.

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You could write it on a dollar bill and .... SHOVE IT UP 
YOUR                   
DEAD MOTHERS ASS!

you want to play this game of nameless, i can too

Married 14 times, 1 as young as 9 years old, on top of that 
rape more than 20 others including wife of his adopted son. 
Teaches follower to married more than 1 to ease their sex 
appetite. Promises 70 virgins in heaven, i beleive he fuck 
asshole too. 

Don't believe me? read your koran to find out who that cunt 
loving ass fucker is.

He founded a religion that has brought nothing but hatred and 
discord between his followers (among themselves) and his 
followers and the rest of mankind. So much war, so many 
killings that took place in the name of Islam and are taking 
place still in various corners of the world. He heralded a 
misogynistic religion that has undermined the rights of women 
and subjected them to mistreatment and abuse.

Facts Finder. only some priests are pervert. What to do?, evil 
is still around

Islam portrays woman as a sexual toy for man. No wonder all 
sexual abuse not reported.

so U R nameless mr x, U can call me mr y, you come before me,i 
last longer than you

That how they fast.

Though it prescribes a whole month of formal fasting and 
believers are not allowed to eat or drink from dawn till dusk, 
are permitted to indulge in sexual gratification from dusk till 
dawn if they so desire. 

Though the Moslems all over the world talk of Islamic rights of 
womanhood, the truth is that a Moslem woman has no right except 
the right to please her man. In fact, she is treated as a bait 
of conversion, and the reason for a Moslem to hold on to his 
faith. It is because Islam identifies salvation with the 
paradise which is a place of sexual merriment and thus the 
abode of the most beautiful women called houris, who are 
available to the followers of Islam only. What is a houri? 

According to the Hadith TIRMZI (P.135-138). 

1. A houri is a most beautiful young woman with a transparent 
body. The marrow of her bones is visible like the interior 
lines of pearls and rubies. She looks like a red wine in a 
white glass. 
2. She is of white colour, and free from the routine physical 
disabilities of an ordinary woman such as menstruation, 
menopause, urinal and offal discharge, child-bearing, and the 
related pollution. 

3. She is a woman characterised by modesty and flexing glances; 
she never looks at any man except her husband, and feels 
grateful for being the wife of her husband. 

4. A houri is a loving woman, free from odium and animosity. 
Besides, she knows the meaning of love and has the ability to 
put it into practice. 

5. A houri is a recreated woman whose virginity has been 
restored. The lucky believers who will have them, shall find 
them untouched. 

6. A houri is an immortal woman. She speaks softly and does not 
raise voice at her man; she is always reconciled with him. 
Having been brought up in luxury, she is a luxury herself. 

7. A houri is a girl of tender age, having large rising breasts 
which are round, and not inclined to dangle. Houris dwell in 
palaces of luxurious surroundings.

To increase the sexual appeal of Islam, another hadith declares 
that man's virility shall be increased hundred-fold. Thus, 
Islam equates salvation with carnal pleasures which houris, the 
paradisiac women provide, thus confirming woman's role in Islam 
as the object of sexual pleasures. 

Those priest should join nameless mr x, then they will have the 
perfect religion they want.

If a man is in a mood to have sexual intercourse woman must 
come immediately even if she is baking bread at a communal 
oven. (TR. P 428) 

Now we know how desperate this religon is

yucks!!!! what mr x religion teaches. especially those my reply 
in capital letters

mr x you are invited to read too.


1. If a woman's conduct is mischievous or immodest, the husband 
has the right to beat her up but must not break her bones. She 
must not allow anybody to enter the house if her husband does 
not like him. She has the right to expect sustenance of her 
husband. (TR. P 439) 

2. It is forbidden for a woman to be seen by any man except her 
husband when she is made up or well-dressed. (TR. P 430) 

3. A woman is not a believer if she undertakes a journey which 
may last three days or longer, unless she is accompanied by her 
husband, son, father or brother. (TR. P 431 ) 

4. A woman must veil herself even in the presence of her 
husband's father, brother and other male relations. (TR. P 432) 

5. She is forbidden to spend any money without the permission 
of her husband, and it includes giving food to the needy or 
feast to friends. (TR. P 265) 

6. A wife is forbidden to perform extra prayers (NAFAL) or 
observe fasting (other than RAMADAN) without the permission of 
her husband. (TR. P 300) 

NO WONDER THEY COULD NOT GET ALLAH TO HELP THEM OUT

7. If prostration were a legitimate act other than to God, 
woman should have prostrated to her husband. (TR. P 428) 

8. If a man is in a mood to have sexual intercourse woman must 
come immediately even if she is baking bread at a communal 
oven. (TR. P 428) 

WOW, THAT HOW CRAZY AND THEIR SEXUAL DESIRE IS. SEX ON COMMUNAL 
OVEN?

9. The marriage of woman to her man is not substantive. It is 
precarious. For example if the father of the husband orders his 
son to divorce his wife, he must do so. (TR. P 440) 

NO WONDER MOHAMMED ASK HIS ADOPTED SON TO DIVORCE HIS WIFE SO 
HE CAN HAVE HER.

10. A woman who seeks KHULA i .e. divorce from her man, without 
a just cause, shall not enter paradise. (TR. P 440) 

On the contrary, a husband can divorce his wife at will. 

11. Majority of women would go to hell. (Muslim P 1431) 

WOMEN SAY SOMETHING, ARE YOU ALL BAD

12. If a woman refuses to come to bed when invited by her 
husband, she becomes the target of the curses of angles. 
Exactly the same happens if she deserts her husband's bed. 
(Bokhari P 93) 

WONDER WHAT THE CURSE OF ANGLES IS ALL ABOUT. YOU FUCKING WHORE 
COME TO BED I NEED A FUCK DESPERATELY.

13. The women who are ungrateful to their men, are the denizens 
of hell; it is an act of ingratitude for a woman to say: "I 
have never seen any good from you." (Bokhari P 96) 

WOMEN, REMEMBER TO TELL YOUR HUSBAND THAT HE FUCK WELL EVEN HIS 
IS ONLY 2 INCHES

14. A woman in many ways is deprived of the possession of her 
own body. Even her milk belongs to her husband. (Bokhari P 27)

SORRY BABY, MUMMY HAS TO FEED DADDY FIRST 

She is not allowed to practise birth control either.

It means if a husband divorces his wife, he cannot marry her 
unless she weds another man first.

SERVE HIM RIGHT, WHO ASK HIM TO DIVORCE HER FIRST.

Moslem women have accepted polygamy but that is under duress, 
or more properly under spiritual blackmail. They have been told 
that this is the command of Allah and disobedient women will 
roast in hell.

Mohammed said about Aisha: 

"I saw you in a dream for three nights when an angel brought 
you to me in a silk cloth and he said: Here is your wife, and 
when I removed (the cloth) from your face, lo, it was yourself, 
so I said: If this is from Allah, let Him carry it out.

CAN YOU IMAGINE A 50 YR OLD MAN TALKING THIS TO A 7 YEAR OLD 
GIRL. YOU THINK HER PARENT DARE TO DIAPPROVED. HERE IS A 
CONTRACT YOU CANNOT REFUSE. MAFIA DON MOHAMMED

You want to be call Mr Y?

Yes as mention many religious teacher can be pervert too, when 
the evil of lust come to their head not their religion. Regret 
that priest in Catholic church has done such act.

Your post about muslims teaching about women and sex, I have 
come across these while reading about Taliban in Afghanistan.

Have a nice day.

aisha is his favourite wife, only 9 years of age.

LOL!!! There are a lot of sexual rules in Islam benifiting the 
Muslim male, hmmm, I wonder why? Oh Ya thats right, Mohammad was 
first and foremost a warrior and recruiter. What better way to 
lure in the fit young males he needed than jotting down some 
hard to resist fantasies?

8. If a man is in a mood to have sexual intercourse woman must 
come immediately even if she is baking bread at a communal 
oven. (TR. P 428) 
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Now I have no idea what a communal oven is; but it sure sounds 
like a whole lotta fun!

I don't know if you saw a "tongue in cheek" post I copied and 
pasted a while back regarding the violent/sexy nature of Islam 
for the Islamic male? Is it any wonder its the fastest growing 
religion among U.S. prison inmates? None of that wonderfull, 
illegal stuff in Christanity....no sir.

NOT ME. SAME OLD FOOLS AS ALWAYS SPAMMING THE BOARD.
SPEAKING OF WHICH.....MR Y.  I TRIED TO READ YOUR POSTS, BUT 
BECAME BORED, SO I STOPPED. SORRY. I DONT MUCH CARE ABOUT WHAT 
MUSLIMS BELIEVE. BUT THEY GET EXTRA CREDIT FOR KNOWING HOW TO 
CONTROL THEIR WOMEN. WHEN I SEE AMERICAN WOMEN GETTING DRAFTED 
INTO THE MILITARY, I'LL BELIEVE IN THE ERA. UNTIL THEN, THEY CAN 
DO THEIR CRYING IN THE KITCHEN.

I'M SURPRISED THAT YOU DIDN'T CONTINUE ON WITH THE WORDS TO CREW 
SLUT. JOE'S GARAGE 1979. MUSIC IS THE BEST.

[aisha is his favourite wife, only 9 years of age.]

Didn't the prophet marry Aisha when she was 6 years old? By 
waiting untill she was 9 to consumate the union shows great 
restraint on the part of Mo-ham-mad, don't ya think?

I'm Gay

THEY WERE BOTH WASHING UP. AND IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, THAT CAN 
TAKE A LONG TIME.

Damn, any way you spell Mohammad/Muhammad, its still got ham in 
it. Weird.

To Mr X We really don't know who is the nameless person but 
according to his first post

"you want to play this game of nameless, i can too"

I believe he is refering to your post Mr X and believe you to 
be the first namelss person.

At least we know he is Mr Y, better than the coward nameless.

I read Mr Y post and I don't feel that it is spamming the 
board. He is telling us about the sex involve in Islam since 
you mention about the priest in catholic churches.

To Mr Y. In my country, they are allow to have 4 wife with the 
consent of the first. I recently have experience a friend of 
mine who has 2 wife. I know the second wife with 3 kids. I 
wonderful lady, nice, friendly, and likeable and yet my friend 
is still searching for more.

To Om/Cf, yes that was how they recruit so many during Mohammed 
time. I was also written.

Hey you fucking shithead, I am not spamming the board, I am 
following your footstep.

Don't fuck other religion before knowing how fuck up your 
religion is. I am talking about Islam.

Facts Finder, sorry, I have to use these kind of language to 
talk to this kind of people.

To Om/Cf, yes that was how they recruit so many during Mohammed 
time. I was also written.

Oops, it should read as It was also written.

Why say sorry to me. If you are with me on my religion. Please 
refrain from using such words. I always find peace and 
forgiveness to be my biggest asset.

Is Islam the ONLY religion that has its own set of laws (sharia, 
or whatever) that are to be followed regardless of the public 
laws of whichever country the follower resides? Again, Im a 
little in the dark on religious issues. Probably better off for 
it, but still curious.

Is it true what Mr Y post about, what the muslims women must 
do. I read it somewhere too. Can you enlighten me about this. I 
read and the comment that Mr Y make was really funny.

From: Mr Y 
To: nameless mr x 
Date: Thu Dec 12 23:03:47 2002 
Message:
Hey you fucking shithead, I am not spamming the board, I am 
following your footstep.

OK, THEN IN THE FUTURE PLEASE REFER TO YOURSELF AS SHITHEAD #2.

I am planning to give you the FUCK OF YOUR LIFETIME! Once you 
yare with me, you will leave your husband. When we first meet, I 
will forget the pleasantries, and just turn you upside down and 
eat you out while the film crew watches. Please give me your 
phone number in your next post, so that I can give you my 
Christmas bonus.  Your husband can watch.  Respectfully yours, 
Gerbil Master xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

Go fuck youself up the wall and this not Marie, Marie do not 
have time for fucking bastard like you

That's the best laugh I've had for awhile.


Just caught a speech given by Reza Pahlavi on C-Span 2, as he 
addressed the National Press Club.  He was asking for our moral 
support while the Iranians overthrow the present government for 
a democratic system.  Here's a speech he gave for the Center for 
the Study of Democracy.

http://www.democ.uci.edu/democ/papers/pahlavi.htm

He had a few choice words for Saddam Hussein:  'He is a 
malignant cancer that needs to be removed.'

http://www.npr.org/programs/npc/  Here's the speech if you care 
to have a listen.

U.K.  hope you're managing to keep your feet!

Historically, 'Christians' have also treated women as 
substandard humans;  There was a time when women had to keep 
their heads covered when entering a church, could not cut their 
hair, and had no voice.  Paul's view of women is at best a 
warped interpretation of Jesus' intentions; 

I always kind of wondered where the word 'whore' came from, now 
I know...

http://www.asahi.com/english/national/K2002121300483.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48211-
2002Dec12.html

http://www.rezapahlavi.org/index.htm

http://www.msnbc.com/news/844546.asp?cp1=1

Yes. Truth is in Islam the Religion does over rule any governing 
tribe, or law. Just about every monotheism puts woman second or 
worse. It explains much about why they have 15 children in one 
family (very few women can have that many kids, so thus the many 
wives). I have to guess that it takes that many kids to get even 
one that is worth a shit or that might actually work for a 
living LOL!!! But the Diper pail must be like a sewer and the 
hand me downs have got to be ragged! This is also the case in 
many hispanic families, as I know one who is wife to a friend of 
mine, she has 14 brothers and sisters. They have a birthday 
party at least once a month. In a way it is a very close knit 
family, but they never seem to get a "real job" and complain 
that they can't get credit, cars, or even a license to drive. 
They want cell phones, computers, MP3 players, cars, and all but 
don't want to have to actually be part of the work force in this 
country. There are exceptions, one boy is working at KFC! LOL! 

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The comment was among answers to a series of questions put to 
Abu Bakar Bashir by the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper and 
published Friday. 

Bashir, the alleged spiritual head of radical Islamic group 
Jemaah Islamiyah, is being held in a Jakarta hospital by 
Indonesian authorities who accuse him of involvement in a string 
of church bombings in 2000.

Australia has put Jemaah Islamiyah, which wants to set up an 
Islamic state across Southeast Asia, on a list of banned 
terrorist organizations.

Prime Minister John Howard recently sparked outrage in Southeast 
Asia by saying he was prepared to launch pre-emptive strikes on 
terrorists based in other countries if doing so would prevent an 
attack on Australia.

Bashir said Australians would be dragged into a war with Muslims 
if they went along with the "crazy idea" of a pre-emptive strike.

"So, if John Howard's stance is followed by the people of 
Australia you must know that there will be war in the world and, 
God willing, Australia will be destroyed instantly due to the 
crazy idea of its prime minister."

Howard refused to comment directly on Bashir's comments but 
insisted Australia was not anti-Islam.

"I would simply make the general point that this country self-
evidently bears no ill will or malice towards any Muslim country 
or to Islam," he said.

Merlyn: Depending upon whether one thinks an aircraft did in 
fact hit the Pentagon, in reference to the Third OR Fourth Plane 
that crashed in Pennsylvania, I'm not really convinced. This is 
an old article, granted;

www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.10.21.153123.26.html

Not that I'm trying to change your mind on it, I just think the 
jury's out on this one in my opinion. Just to re-affirm, I do 
believe that an aircraft did certainly strike the Pentagon.

X: Seems rather ironic that I seem to be the only G.W.Bush 
supporter on here and I'm not American. Of course, Bush is no 
Franklin D.Roosevelt, and Blair is no Winston Churchill either. 
Nevertheless, I'd prefer having Bush & Blair in charge anytime, 
rather our opposite number to Blair, Ian Duncan Smith. I don't 
know what your view of Al Gore is. The choice nowadays is rather 
limited..unfortunately.

Prior to Bush's inauguration, his detractors thought he'd be a 
weak leader, citing his prior alcohol problems in younger days 
etc. Depending upon's one definition of what constitutes 
a "War", when all's said and done in such situations, 
the 'People' look for strength in their leaders. Things like 
intellect and compassion come further down the list of 
priorities generally speaking, it seems. As an individual, he's 
largely overcome his problems on a personal level. In my view 
he's shown determination in difficult cirumstances, he's been 
responsible in trying (as far as one able) to state that 
terrorist extremists have hijacked Islam, for instance. 
Yesterday I noticed he spoke out in regards to some Mississippi 
politician who got himself involved in a race row. Whether he 
himself, or the voters he represents actually believe in his 
stance in these instances, deep down, is neither here nor there. 
Bottom line, Bush can't go to the U.N. on a 'moral' crusade to 
defeat the so-called Axis of Evil, unless there's some kind of 
consistency with regards to being a moral leader at home. On the 
down side of course, he may well fuck up your economy..but then 
fortunately, that's not my problem! Although saying that, when 
the U.S. economy sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold.

You mentioned, the joint decision Roosevelt and Eisenhower took 
took in regards to refugees and Stalin. That, one assumes, being 
a matter of historical fact is something I can't argue with. 
It's obviously a black mark, no question. The British government 
abandoned Poland to IT'S fate when it most needed British help, 
which was left to send brave but futile horse mounted cavilry 
charges up against heavily armoured tanks. However, we all, 50 
years on can talk in detatched hindsight on such events and 
decisions made in a climate where the Second World War's outcome 
was anything but certain. As is turned out, the combined might 
of the Allies ONLY JUST won out over the real threat of total 
dictatorial world domination of the very worst kind. I myself, 
don't expect my country's leaders to be saints. That, I'd leave 
to the clergy, assuming they're up to THAT task! I simply expect 
our leaders to do the best they can in the cicumstances.
    
Roosevelt, being an elderly wheel-chair bound polio survivor was 
the very best person for the job in my view. Long gone are the 
days, when the best person for the job of national leader 
actually gets or even wants the job anymore, and I think we are 
all the poorer for it.

Facts Finder: Never having traveled to S.E.Asia, I'm by and 
large, unaware of the popularity or otherwise of Islam in the 
region. As you rightly say, many affiliate groups sympathetic to 
whatever degree, with al-Qaeda's ultimate aims jump on the 
bandwagon. A bit like the one or two nutcases that flew their 
tiny light aircraft into high rise buildings since 9-11, in some 
warped tribute to it. I don't really know much about Singapore, 
other than that it is highly regulated as a society, typified by 
the fact that there's hardly a piece of litter to be found on 
the ground, anywhere. Sorry if I've perhaps missed it before, 
but may I ask, being a Singapore resident yourself, do you feel 
somehow concerned that Singapore itself is under threat from 
Islam politically in some way? Is there a general move toward 
Islam in your society?

Didn't see too much Bonanza, I prefered The High Chaparal..nice 
theme tune too. As far as Nanu Nanu goes, I recall you put that 
on the end of one of your posts to me once. I guessed it was a 
jokey reference to American television, although I wasn't 
entirely sure. I thought perhaps, there was a slim chance it was 
the local language for goodbye. LOL!!

Speaking of humour.....was putting HALO in the Lord's Prayer 
deliberate? I realise it's supposed to be 'hallowed be thy 
name'. Halo's a pretty good console game, for sure!, but even I 
don't think it's quite good enough to warrant praise from upon 
high! LOL!! Now, either that's a typing error on your part, or 
you sir...are a comic genious! Either way, it made me laugh. I 
deliberately mispelt Hedley Lamar 'Headey', my only deliberate 
spelling mistake I'm sorry to say. You may have perhaps seen the 
film.

It's great to talk with you Facts Finder. I do admire your 
bravery and your stoic sense of humour. I'll try to post back 
here in 10 days or so.

Om/cf: Hi there Om/cf, yeah I don't know too much about the 
Iraqi football/soccer team to be honest, except that it's been 
alleged they were tortured and beaten on the express orders of 
Uday Hussein, when it just so happens that he's President of 
Iraq's bid for the 2012 Olympics! For God's sake, I mean can 
things possibly get any more surreal?!!! Torture as an incentive 
for sporting excellence! IraqFoundation.org alluded to 
the 'fact' that those in the Hussein household may in all 
seriousness require bodyguards to protect themselves from each 
other against assasination by either their father, or siblings 
or sons, in the event things start to go belly in Iraq, for them.

Something here I thought you might find amusing. The reply to 
this article wasn't bad either.

www.adequacy.org/stories/2002.9.7.231542.2185.html

I don't know what the weather's like in your part of the world 
right now, but I'll check back on the 24th to see if my long 
range forcast was correct! Think I'll set up an accumulator bet, 
along with who'll win the Superbowl next year! Talk to you soon 
maybe. All the best sir.

Help 4 U: Re: Your last post. An X-rated stocking filler for 
Christmas. Glad to see you're getting into the festive spirit..

A very Merry Christmas/Honika (whatever your preference is) to 
you, in advance.

No name: Just to say, that was actually NOT the real Gerbil 
Master. Any remarks of that nature are courtesy of a mimic.    

Yes I agree, an airplane did hit the pentagon, many asw it do 
so. But then again no one has ever really tried such a thing on 
the pentagon before LOL! so... this was a trial run for sure. 
There are questions as to who knows what. And it would seem that 
perhapse it is like the peice of straw through a brick thing. 
Just a matter of beleiving what you see. Hard to do sometimes. I 
think in struggleing to explain how this kind of thing can 
happen we have got to look at the past. We just see everything 
in a different way now, and still don't understand how the 
Islamic world can claim they are the "meek" who will inherit the 
earth. Acting like they do renigs the "meek" thing and in doing 
so Osama began the refromation of the Muslim religion. Not what 
he "planned" to do. But in over view the Islamic mind set is 
very near sighted and ignorant of the scope of what they are 
doing. If China or Russia jumps in on all of this shit will 
REALLY hit the fan. Such is the scuds on the way to North Korea? 
Reactors being fired up and so on. Things are changing fast. 
   We need to change faster.  

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,72901,00.html

SEOUL, South Korea    North Korea demanded an apology Friday 
from the United States for what it described as "piracy" in the 
seizure of a ship carrying missiles to Yemen.

  
 
 
 
A day earlier, North Korea declared that it would revive a 
nuclear power plant that the United States and its allies 
suspect was being used to develop nuclear weapons before it was 
frozen in 1994. 

Yep the Hallowed is mispell.

As for the influence of Islam in Singapore. No. Singapore is 
surounded by muslims countries, Brunei, Malaysia and Indonesia. 
The threat are always there by the influence is not. Singapore 
are basically a very well informed country where we get news 
from all over the world. Chinese are the majority population in 
Singapore, almost 80 percent. Singapore is multi racial and 
religion country. Since the Chinese have the most people here. 
Buddhist is the biggest religion followed by Christain, 
Muslims, Hindus, sikh and others accordingly.

Even in a safe place like Singapore, Islamic terrorist also 
have their plan and network here. In July 16 suspect were 
caught planning to bomb a train station frequently use by 
American in Singapore. These group was link to the JI in 
indonesia who was also the culprit for the bombing of bali.

121 muslims organization, including mosque came out openly and 
spoke against the islamic terrorists but as I say  how many 
really are against in their heart. Because of their minority 
position and they can see the cautious and hatred some people 
feel towards them, they have to voice their concern to avoid 
reprisal.

I would say majority of Singaporean are against all the Islamic 
terror attack all around the world. Christianity is the biggest 
influence in Singapore religion.

Behaviour wise, Muslims in Singapore, I would say are more 
westernize on clothing, knowledge and behaviour. Many muslim 
drink alcohol here. Muslims has the biggest problem in drug 
abuse and divorce base on ratio. They belong, more to the lower 
income group but as I mention poverty only takes up very small 
percentage.

Come visit. I would be glad to be your tourist guide.

http://www.strong.dk/girl.php

Wonder what she will show next!

[Behaviour wise, Muslims in Singapore, I would say are more 
westernize on clothing, knowledge and behaviour. Many muslim 
drink alcohol here. Muslims has the biggest problem in drug 
abuse and divorce base on ratio. They belong, more to the lower 
income group but as I mention poverty only takes up very small 
percentage.]
    It would seem the case world wide in many countries. But 
here in America most of the Muslims I see are doing well, some 
very well. Perhapse so well they border on being infidel to the 
Mullas who would rather have their money and have them be poor 
and "submissive" (Islam) I think refromation cannot come soon 
enough in the case of the Muslim. Mostly for their own sake. 

Seems like we were criticizing the choice of Kissinger to lead 
the 9-11 investigation...just the other day. Every once in a 
while something gets done correctly in goverment. Kissyassy 
refused to provide a list of his clients...Gee, I wonder why - 
would it make him seem a little biased? Or was he more worried 
about losing clients/money. Conflict of interests? Ya, just a 
little.

I wonder which octagenarian from the past will be dredged up 
next? Jimmy Carter has gotten a little communistic and flakey in 
his old age. Gerald Ford is still kickin', I think? Ronald 
Reagen is out of the running (as in "out-of-it") - or is he?

I suppose it would be hoping for too much to expect a choice 
that actually made sense - probably another <|:)~

Yes I knew that you want to kill this board, that was you 
objective all the along. Why simply because you are pro islam 
extremists.

And I know how stupid you can be, repeating and changing 
colours, thinking that people will just scroll it down. All we 
have to do is bring the cursor to the side and pull it down to 
the next msg. Go ahead, if you like other to think how childish 
and stupid you are.

Well Saddam & Co. tried real hard to start the war today. They 
sent an Iraqi fighter jet up into the southern no-fly zone 
attempting to lure a pair of f-16's over a surface-to-air missle 
battery, which more than likely would have downed ay least one 
of the aircraft. The pilots and controller's didn't fall for the 
trick. Iraq hasn't downed a single patroling fighter in ten 
years with their mobile SAM's and have lost nearly every 
launcher and crew that dared to fire. So, when a war Saddam 
claims he wants to avoid is at his doorstep, he pulls a stunt 
like this. The mans mind works completly in the opposite 
direction of a normal mind.

It has been the deal all along. The no fly zones are simply 
weapon disposal zones for the past ten years. It serves as good 
pilot training and gives old Saddam some play time with his 
wepons for oil...oh yea, food for oil program. 
   Kissinger is too tied up in the "deals" and would stand to 
loose too much money..er, too many clients. LOL! Is the Nobel 
peace prize really a Nobel "Piece" of the action prize? Seems 
Carter thinks so as he tells how dangerous the deals are..er, 
dangerous the world is. There just isn't any safe way to scam 
out any more, even the dogs of war are running short on cash 
these days. Could it be? No, of coarse not it's just Evil, 
that's all. We can always beat evil with a million acts of 
kindness!! that's it. Shit, that isn't even funny! 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,54237,00.html

How could I have overlooked the obvious frontrunner!?! Mr. "read 
my lips" himself, G. Bush senior! "Wouldn't be prudent, at this 
juncture.....but what the fuck, jobs are scarce, I'll take the 
job". ((((((((DING DING DING))))))))) Morning already? What a 
nightmare!!

Nah, not even a extrordinarily high approval rating would make 
someone do something THAT stupid.

I dont know havent thought about it yet lol!

X: I dont have any "Tatoos" Dont presume you know someone if you 
dont :-)

U Know Who: Nice try Moron!!

I'm sure the church has to report their "Ahem, Donations" to 
someone or else Jim Baker wouldnt have gone to jail for Tax 
Evasion!!! Among other Sex Crimes etc...

Sometimes I wonder if being "Celibate" Among the Religions is 
what has made them turn into Pedofilic Maniac's!!!

Thank GOD! I was born AMERICAN!!!!!

I think your getting U Know who aroused lol...Throw a Cat and a 
Microwave in there and he may just blow a well you know :-)

I have NEVER heard of any Religion with Any Laws Like Islam! 
Except Celibacy! I am beginning to think someone made up this 
Islamic Religion, and are terribly misguided and misled!

When you find the tweezers and the magnifying glass, use them, 
find it, take some Viagra, Get back to me!

Your not the only Bush and Blair supporter on here :-) I would 
be a whole lot more frightened if all this happened on ol' 
Bill's watch! What pisses me off is the fact that, Oh man I 
forget what country had him now, but One of them had Usama, 
offered to hand him over to Clinton, and HE DIDNT TAKE HIM!!! He 
didnt have it in him to take on these terrorist bastards the way 
B & B do! Lack of Military experience I suppose. Or to busy 
poking Monica. I do however realise that the Democratic party 
has strong issues for what goes on at home! So does everybody! 
But if WE dont do something there will be NO home for the 
Democratic Party next time they are elected to focus on! I am 
glad we have such strong leadership!! 

I am turning in I think. It's been a Loooong week. Good news 
though, That certain someone (You know who I'm talking about) 
Got his leave approved and I do believe he will be here for 
Christmas!!! I am so Happy. I wish ALL the Military Families 
could have the same, I know they cant, it breaks my heart. But I 
want them to know my thoughts and prayers are with them! 
Sometimes when you have a Loved one in the Military, and 
something happens to another Soldier, someone you dont even 
know, it feels like it's happened to you. Anyway on a lighter 
note I have a vacation comming next week also, and Good GOD do I 
need it! So hopefully if all goes well, next week will be a good 
one all the way around! Anyway I will see you good people 
tomorrow I think, and to all the ones that have decency and 
respect, and of course brains! Have a good nite! And god Bless!

P. S.  U Know Who/aka/Countless other nick's, Take a pill! 
PLEASE! Sometimes you are a sweetie but not when you have the 
pipe in your mouth! You have a nice nite too! :-)

I do know the Jehova's Whitness'es have some pretty strange 
laws, I will let you know about this particular one I know, next 
time I am on. Unless you already know about them lol.. Take Care!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,72909,00.html
Not even his wife wants any part of this bs campein. 

No tats? no belly ring? no toung stud? LOL!!
That's ok, soon it will be in style not to have them, again 

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Barbara Walters SLAUGHTERED George Bush and his bush, Barbara 
aka murderer of her former boyfriend that she killed in car 
crash.Anyway, Barbara Walters SHOULD BE PRESIDENT.  Bush and his 
bush murdering wife could not answer Walter's questions without 
being defensive.  They both suck.  Barbara Bushy should have her 
license revoked forever.  Money talks.  Kill your boyfriend in a 
car accident and WALK free, if it had been you or me we wouldve 
seen some tough prison time, etc. Cover up for murdererer 
Barbara Bush and her silly monkey face georgie bushy that has to 
clean up the mess that his daddy made.  How sad that little 
george has to wipe up the cum stains his daddy left behind.... 
BUSH'S SUCK.  His standing on top of the WTC rubble is a joke.  
Did he go in and help the fireman recover bodies?  Let me see 
that than I will be impressed!  Also, where was the dyke 
Hillary?  Sucking pussy I presume as NYC 
burned.........POLITICIANS ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO USA RIGHT 
ALONG WITH THE TERRORISTS, AFTER ALL, THEY CREATED THE FREEDOM 
RIDERS.  I dont have to cut and paste like some of the people on 
this board.  I can use my own words and think for myself. 

where would you rather be, naked having sex, or dying in a 
burning building?

i thought you were going to kill this board?

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ass..................and even use duck tape if you would rather 
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hay merlyn, why dont u talk about your stupid majic shit, thats 
always good for a laugh.

get a grip and om/cf are just back from their honeymoon, let's 
all welcome them back with open arms, congratulations on your 
same sex marriage, i hope you never have kids.

Not to make you or I feel old mind you, but I bet there are not 
many who participate on this board that has the little round 
tatoo on the upper arm from the days it was a required 
vaccination for kids. Smallpox was declared eradicated in the 
early 1970's I think. If its given the same way with a gun-
looking instrument with a forked needle shooting one spot 15 or 
so times leaving a permenent scar, I don't think it will be a 
big seller in today's vain society. Well maybe if its marketed 
right.......a commercial with a metal clad teenager with 
everything tatooed and pierced from head to toe 
saying "vaccinate...its kewl". The skeptical side says some 
government biggies got some bucks tied up in the pharmacutical 
companies producing the vaccine?

DONT YOU REALIZE THAT EVERYONE TAKES THEIR MOUSE AND SCROLLS 
PAST ALL THE "I WILL KILL THIS BOARD" STUFF AND KEEPS POSTING?
YOU ARE JUST WASTING YOUR TIME. 

hi, whats this board about? seems kinda strange, what are the 
topics here? is this your board?

Its most definatly not my board! The original topics were the 
attacks on 09-11-01 and anything terrorism related. Now its 
kinda all over the place with one or more twinkies that 
copy/pastes spam (vandalizes), apparently in disagreement with 
the right of free speech.

Is u know who a shit eater?

Seems that Kissinger is even afraid of speaking of what he 
knows. A sad comment said in silence.......................But 
didn't it just SLAP Bush Jr in the face? I think so.. It's 
like "Look boy, you better get your head out of the clouds!". 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73002,00.html

I'll skip this one, knowing the source is not liable for the 
resulting side affects. 

But yes I have the scar, LOL!

Drink of the day. Makers Mark & Coke, over ice. Six Bong hits 
and a chick with fresh nipple rings! 

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